19 questions from our users
Hi. I have the chance of buying a 4 year old 940 with 180 hours on the clock. Looks in good condition but probably needs new belts and blades. Other than that it looks fine. Would anyone have doubts about buying a 4 year old machine? Thanks.
Hi john It’s hard to say without seeing machine I would get in contact with the nearest dealer to you to get an idea on service schedule and what cost you would be up for on a machine with the hours I know the first 50hr service is a big one. My blades have already copped absolute abuse and they still cut the lawn around my house beautifully
Just been comparing the Razorback CMX227 with the AS940 Sherpa. The reviews have been helpful. But just a question on weight. The Razorback is apparently a smaller machine yet weighs 450kg compared to AS940 at 355Kg. Where is this difference in weight? Is Razorback using thicker steel, stronger deck etc. What acounts for weight difference??
Hi, I am looking for a dealer in Tasmania. Can anyone assist?
Greetings from Canada. It’s odd that AS-Motor sells the Sherpa around the world, but this Australian based website is the only one that I can find discussing it. The Sherpa has been imported into North America since October, 2015. I’ve been trying to find information on dealer/distributor support via a thread on the TractorByNet forums (Google “TractorByNet 381244” if interested), but I have a technical question that you folks down-under might be able to answer. My experience has suggested that as the equipment wheels get larger, the ride gets smoother, so the smallish wheels on the Sherpa makes me wonder. Is the ride over rough terrain uncomfortable when operating for hours? I recognize that operating at a higher speed is going to make for a rougher ride on any machine, but in general, for “non-lawn” smoothness, is the ride a concern? Thank you.
Dear Chris, thank you for your request an interest in our AS 940 Sherpa XL, please find here our website with dealers/ distributores listed in the USA https://www.as-motor.de/us/. As well you can contact us directly under firstname.lastname@example.org where we would be happy to answer all your questions directly.
What is the recommended retail price of. Sherpa 4wd ride on mower?
I'm about to decide whether to buy a Shepa 940. I can see it's clearly very effective at cutting long grass but I'd like to know what it's like on a lawn ? Does it give a clean finish ? I see the minimum cut height is 50 mm. and am afraid this is not short enough. I have a very steep lawn, 4000 sq. m. and there isn't much choice on the market for a tough low-centre of gravity 4wd machine. It won't be used for brush cutting but on grass up to 10 cms high. Thank you for your views !
We have had our Sherpa 940 for three years and have found it to be very good and safe on all terrains and with all types of surfaces, including lawn-like grass. We use it on setting 3 and or 4 for lawns immediately around the house, and the (higher) 5 setting for the paddocks. Because it is a mulching-type mower you will find that over time the grass becomes evenly spread and over time more lawn-like. If you do get a Sherpa, make sure you have the steering attachment on the steering wheel as it makes driving the Sherpa even easier than it already is. My wife and I have been very impressed with the solid German manufacture as well.
We have 140 acres and most of it is pretty untamed farm land. We do use the Sherpa on all parts of it including around buildings where we want a more lawn like look. We still cut that at the top height to control weeds and because of the type of grass it is but it does give a very lawn like appearance even at that height. It does cut very neatly when we're not attacking 6 foot high lantana.
I've put a photo of the results here https://goo.gl/photos/qm3omNXLSucrHwMs5
The longer grass on the right is cut by the mower and you can see where it drops it. The other area is kept shorter but still only mowed at the top height setting.
My opinion is basically same as those above. It is extremely well built and stable on rough steep terrain. My use is 'grass cutting', rather than 'lawn' cutting. My advice would be to get a demo. My neighbour and another commercial contractor I know, have a 4wd (diesel) mower which has an outfront deck and a very small turn radius made by John Deere. It has 3 cutter spindles on the deck and produces a 'finer finish' as it was more designed for 'area lawns', playing fields etc. It also has the ability to change the deck to mulching mower for really rough mowing (stones etc). Both use their machines on neighbouring blocks of similar terrain to ours with no stability issues. I think you will find the John Deere similar priced to the Sherpa & it can also be used as a 'tractor' as it has hydraulics for a loader accessory. Also check out the Husqvarna awd machine, also with out front deck. However, to mow 4000sqm, any of these are a big investment $15-20k -- have you considered a 'commercial' grade self propelled that has a fairly wide cut, walk behind machine such as a Deutscher or one made by AS Motor?
Just my thoughts - Joe
How do the Sherpa 940 and razorback mowers compare? Razorback has more clearance. I have lots of hills and rocks so wondering which can handle better. Sherpa has more horsepower. Both 4wd with diff locks.
I test drove the Razorback on my place too. It definitely had better clearance. It was a much smaller machine. I am 6'1" 185cm and I was cramped. It also used foot controls which I prefer. The Sherpa uses all hand throttle which is more stable on rough ground but not as familiar as a pedal.
My impression from the short test drive of the Razorback compared to a much longer time on the Sherpa is that the later is lighter and more capable sideways on a hill and generally more sure footed. But both are still excellent. The other big difference is shaft (Razorback) vs belt (Sherpa) drive for the blades. I prefer the later as I'd rather ruin a belt hitting something (and you will!) than a shaft or motor.
Test drive both. You will prefer one to the other.
I think comments of Andrew and Michelle are spot on. Check out how robustly the deck is constructed. I think the Sherpa is more robust in this area, but mine has taken a few hits/dings (but no serious damage) there from rock hits and pieces of wood and I might add some extra steel as a preventive measure as a wintertime job. Personally I much prefer a belt drive (with shear pins on the cutter shaft) rather than the shaft drive on the crosscut, even though I am assured it has shear pin protection. The gearbox geartrain must still take a bit of a pounding..... Belts take shock loads by slipping without undergoing catastrophic failure ... Hence my preference.
How do they handle rocks?
Little ones they eject at high speed. Medium ones dull the blades and big ones I dare not think about. Since it's belt drive I imagine that would be what suffered. We don't have many rocks so it's not an issue for us.
We run ours on the top height setting and if there was a higher one we'd use it. Our main enemy is wrist thick branches lurking in the grass. It goes over most but if it hits one it pretty much smashes it to pieces without any problems.
There are other mowers or ride on brushcutters that are higher and the Sherpa also has mulching blades (which I think you can remove) that would mean rocks are a problem.
All depends what you mean by 'rocks'.
The Sherpa is belt drive to the deck and the main cutter arm would be 10mm thick steel with a 'swing back' blade on each end. If you hit a rock, swing back blades will just do that -- swing back and there is a bit of a clatter (we have bluestone - basalt!). Best to avoid the rocks if possible as its not the best on the blades, but I have had some pretty heavy hits and managed to put a few 'dimples' in the deck surround, which is at least 3mm gal steel!. Running above the main blade and at right angles to it is the mulching blade which is about 8mm thick solid steel (no swing back tips on it). Both blades are protected with shear bolts (grade 10 bolts) and the cutter blade hub is connected to the main drive shaft with a square steel woodroofe key (I think it is about 6mm square - key steel buyable at any engineering shop -- prob $5 for 30cm or so) - which will also shear as a protective measure. Of course the belt will take any shocks, but no wear or replacements here so for.
I have managed to break several shear bolts and one key. The bolts are a standard spare part, but a bolt of same properties can be bought at any good engineering supply shop (Unbrako Grade 10 flange bolts) at a fraction of the 'spare part' price.
Probably takes about 30 mins to remove blade and replace bolts .... helps with ramps, or better still a winch block to just 'crane up' the front end to get easy access underneath.
I think I prob did most mischief when I engaged with a big basalt rock that was well buried, but just protruding above ground level and well hidden in grass.
Overall, I would rate the machine as pretty bullet proof and rocks not really an issue.
If however, you have a 'really rocky' site eg lots of rocks on the ground, a flail mower might be better than a rotary machine. Flail movers will also handle 'rough' vegetation pretty well. On that basis I would look at one of the out-front AWD Husqvarnas that will take either a rotary or flail deck (interchangeable) out front. Expect >$20k for the bigger diesel one P25D (commecial grade & >best) and there is also a smaller and less expensive one - domestic grade - R322AWD (about $10k).
Have heard good reports of the P25D from a commercial contractor for mowing rougher overgrown blocks& small acreages.
Also the outfront deck has less issues with 'breakover clearances' / scalping when you go over a crest compared to a mid mount like the sherpa. However on really steep stuff, the Sherpa is probably more sure footed.
Where do you buy this? We live near Murwillumbah.
Look on the Aust website www.asmotor.com.au
This is operated by the Aust distributor who is located in Moe, Vic but I am fairly sure it will point you to a dealer local to your area. If you contact the distributor, please mention that Joe, Mt Dandenong a very satisfied owner of one the first Sherpa's brougtht in to Aust, referred you.
(Forgive me if you get this twice - the sign up process does not make clear if a question was posted or not).
I am considering the AS940 which has a B&S 22hp Professional 8 series engine OR the Etesia AV98X 4WD which has a B&S 23 hp Vanguard engine (the key word being Vanguard). Checking the B&S website the Professional range is 'nearly commercial' grade, but the Vanguard range certainly is.
Given that I have 5 acres of grass with 2 acres on a slope with 400 trees to mow around and I intend to pass this mower on to my children - any thoughts ? The brush cutter is for the sloping part.
I realise that, by definition, you all have AS940 equipment and probably love it !
Nic, I am not familiar with the Etesia machine, but I have had no issues with the engine on the AS motor machine. My thoughts are that (any) issues with the engine are of lesser consideration than the quality/robustness of the build of the frame/mower deck (galvanised & powder coated) and the transaxle / gearbox / drive system. On these aspects I can say the Sherpa is A1. Other consideration is spares --- spares for Sherpa are readily avail, but much of the stuff is 'generic' (eg shear bolts, belts, bearings etc) and once you work that out, can be sourced from engineering suppliers at a fraction of cost of the 'genuine spares'. Joe
Hi Nic, I don't know the Eteisa either but if you work any motor hard enough you will be lucky to pass the machine onto your kids with the same one you bought it with. I agree with Joe about the rest of the machine. Andrew
Another point re comparing the Etesia machines with the Sherpa - the Sherpa 940 is 4 wheel drive and the Etesia is a 2wd (rear only).
Makes a HUGE difference to traction when working on slopes, especially if grass is green or has some moisture on it. The Etesia looks to be more comparable to the ASMotor 800 or the Italian made Grillo
I would be grateful if anyone could give me some idea of what fuel consumption they are getting from their as940?
Is there a Dealer near Portland Oregon?
I have no idea as I live in Australia.
I suggest you look at the German AS Motor website (www.as-motor.de) which has an English language section and they list their international distributors/agents.
Has anyone had any issues with reliability or availability problems with spares?
Would you still recommend purchasing it, having owned and run one for a few years?
Thanks for your help!
No issues with reliability so far.
Have had 2 replace 2 belts (motor to hydraulic pump) so far as well as blade 'shear bolts' through hitting obstacles.
As far as I know the Vic distributor / dealer has spares ex stock, but machine is mainly constructed from many 'generic' parts, and with a little research, I have been able to source the parts I have needed from local good engineering supply shops - at a significantly lower cost than AS branded spares.
Eg. Belts are standard metric sizes (Optiflex brand)
Shear bolts are Peiner brand (who emailed me the specs) and Unbrako brand supply an equivalent grade 10 flange bolt locally
The cutter drive shaft 'shear key' --- standard 6mm key steel. Etc.
If you have some mechanical nouse, repairs/mtce is easy.
Would I buy one again --- most definitely on performance, build & reliability, but the price point (with change in $AUD - Eur, might make it harder to negotiate with 'treasurer'.
Who is the dealer for Sherpa Mowers in Victoria?
How is it on steep slopes ? My 24 Hp Greenfield struggles up 30 dgree slopes, even with tractor tyres on the rear. And going downhill is even scarier, constantly needing to use the (emergency) footbrake or putting it in reverse using the heel/toe Greenfield setup, which cant be good for the mower.
I bought the AS 940 Sherpa precisely because we're on very steep land. I've been very happy with its stability and performance. Of course, common sense needs to be applied. If a slope is slippery or very steep then you need proceed with caution. Not that I've ever made use of it, but I also find it comforting to have the rollbar there if I really did misjudge. Maybe you can contact a dealer and get a test drive on a steep slope. I find there's no substitute for direct experience. Good luck!
as940 sherpa what does it cost and nearest dealer? Is it suitable for rough terrain ie ripped up ground?
Good morning Vern,
The machine cost me $16,900 including GST. The dealer was located in Brisbane - Remote Vegetation Management 32985874 - 0409272611.There is also a dealer being the imported in Moe, Victoria. I found the machine suited my application which was rough and rutted. I suggest an on site demo if you can, they did a demo at my place when requested. I hope this information assists with you query.
Please foward the cost and the availability of this lawn mower as940sherpa 4wd can they be purchased on line ? also is the mower only sutable for rough terain we live on a fairly steap property and can be slippery .we live in Portland is there an agent for them in this area thankyou K Fitzgerald
Good morning Kevin,
My machine cost me $16,900 + delivery costs, my understanding is the dealer usually has a couple in stock due popularity of the model. The mower is suited to steep and slippery terrain though extremely capable of giving a neat finish cut around the house on your lawn. The Australian dealer is located in Moe, Victoria. Contact Reg at Valley Pumps and Irrigation Systems on 03 5126 1107
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