Very good product
Sales process excruciating. Product excellent. Installation excellent. Offset the angst. We ordered 6 windows from Jared in June 2020. We replaced our windows due to the heat from the northerly sun. It has been pretty good for thermal control. Noise reduction a bonus I hadn't expected to be so good. The installers were exceptional. Here for 1.5 days. Two installers. Extremely good. Tidied up. Cleaned up. Today we are looking at another 11 windows upstairs. Want to make a better thermal balance and to not have to paint.
PLEASE READ THIS IF YOU'RE CONSIDERING ECO STAR
I hope any prospective client of ECOSTAR read ALL the other 1 star reviews of this company and sales pitch experience. This company is morally bankrupt and I would suggest the actions of the sales rep visitation is boarding on illegal (when you are told to leave a private residence, and you don't, you are "trespassing". Wen you are engaging in incredibly strong intimidation techniques when told not to, you are "harassing")
My experience is exactly the same as others' in that:
*over TWO HOURS of HARD sales pitching with nothing to do with the ...
Don’t want to know about problems
Great product until something goes wrong. Back doors jammed locked and they couldn’t send anyone out for three weeks. Had to engage emergency locksmith. Now for the third time in two years we have to engage an emergency locksmith. Not good enough after spending $34,000+.
High quality product - with a high price & high pressure sales tactics (& no flyscreens)!
**CAUTION: they have twice refused to return our 20% deposit (to replace 4 windows + door) when requested via email and phone within the ACL's cooling off period of 10 business days - stay tuned for update... **
* Update: all our requests for a full refund of our deposit under the ACL's cooling off period were politely but firmly declined by the sales rep via phone, after allegedly consulting with his superiors. My email to the office went unanswered. After confirming my rights with Consumer Affairs Vic (see below), I rang the office and aske...
I couldn’t get past the hard sales tactics. Horrible!!!
After 2.5 hours of an aggressive sales pitch, I was made to sign a “I do not want the discount “ when I firmly said I would not be signing today. I can see that some people would be pressured to sign without doing their research. There ARE comparable products and better priced. Abysmal outdated sales practices. Off putting to say the least.
Worth the effort. Good service.
We ordered 10 or 12 windows from Jared back in mid to late 2019. Around that time. We wanted to cut down on noise and improve insulation and also to be able to easily open them. The other windows were getting old. We heard Ecostar on the radio. We like the noise reduction, it is a vast improvement. We live on a busy corner with lots of cars and trucks going past. It really reduces the noises. Its a great change. The thermally performance has improved. The
ease of use is good. Easy to open. Look good. We find them solid. There were 4 installers who were here for a couple of days.
How many family emergency cancellations can be legit for a company of this size?
Been trying to arrange a quote for over 4 weeks. 2 hour appointment slots need to be made with all household members. Big time commitment which we have made twice now, only to get a call 30 minutes before our scheduled appointment to cancel due to family emergency. Twice. The second time we were quite annoyed and they said”its hard to arrange people for quotes” ummm that’s your job?
Waste of time!
This is a scam, stay away !!!!
Called the 1300 number on the website and the girl on the other side was mentioning double glassing over and over as if they are the only company providing double glassing these days. Fast-forward 5 min after asking my requirements for the quote they needed 2 hours for someone to come and do the quote and want the whole family to be available to give me a quote for a single bi-folding door. When ask why they need both me and my partner available for this she was like we want both of you to make the decision. When i mentioned that we both want the same colours as other windows and doors and a bi-folding door for the space she said they can't do it and hung up on me. Don't fall for this tactics of trying to force sell.
Hard Sell reeks of scam.
I have not been that uncomfortable in a long time. The quote went on & on with promises galore IF I signed a contract on the spot. Who the hell does that?? 2.5 hours to see the back of the person who came into my home & took me for somebody who could be persuaded to jump into a contract. This is no way to do business & put me right off. NO SALE!! NO STARS.
Joke of a company
On 2 separate occasions I have contacted ecostar for a quote to replace 5x awning windows. You immediately get a sales person call to schedule a measure & quote, then ask about 10 sales qualifying questions. Then 1 day before the measure & quote you get another call asking the same questions. What they are doing is qualifying whether you are likely to purchase or not. If they feel you will not buy or are collecting multiple quotes, a few hours before the appointment time you get a call saying the guy is sick and cannot attend. As per some ...other reviews, the appointment is simply a 2hr sales pitch, pressuring you to buy. You'll hear statements like, uPVC is designed for 80-90 years in the Australian environment, but its never been tested as it hasn't been in the country for more than 10-15 years and the warranty is only 10 years! This is a despicable & unethical practice, which I will be reporting to the relevant body.
Stay away- this is a scam
The sales person does a sales pitch for 2 hours and will not leave your house without theatrics (I need to call my manager etc!)- the door and window samples are awful and the prices are easily 40% above market price.
95% maintenance free. Just give it a rub down every now and then.
Excellent from a thermal perspective. Noise reduction good. Australian standards are 3 mil glass, 10 mil gap and then 3 mil glass. The Ecostar one with 4 mil glass, 20 mil space and 4 mil is suitable for Australian standards.
I saw Ecostar at the shopping centre in Endeavour Hills. Office were fine. Quote process with Jared was fine. Fully explanatory. Laid out clearly what you are getting.
Two hours of quote process
Two hours presentation and induction on their company history, product, and safety.
Must have my partner with me. Product is from UK so it takes 20 weeks to be installed. All for a bifold door... a little over the top.
I am sure it will also be more expensive than others out there. I wouldn’t know as I stopped the ‘induction’ half way.
I am also sure they say I’m not the right customer because I refused the presentation. I feel sorry for the salesperson.. what a hard way to make a sale.
Does anyone else notice a pattern of ‘glowing reviews’ after each bad ones such as mine?
Strange and uncomfortable quote experience
Very bizarre experience when the Ecostar salesperson came to my home for a measure and quote. I genuinely went into the appointment interested in their product but after I told the salesperson I was happy to forgo the ‘single visit discount’ and would not be signing up on the spot, they became very pushy, refused to take no for an answer, and I had to lock myself in my study while he performed all sorts of calling ‘his boss’ theatrics until eventually he got the message and left. I have never felt so uncomfortable in my own home and however good their product is, their bizarre hard-sell tactics mean I certainly not buy from them
WOW!!! WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT???
We're getting quotes to replace a few windows at our house. The general process is someone comes over, has a quick chat, takes some measurements, and then leaves and sends a quote within a few days. Works well.
Not with these guys!!! It was actually like a comedy show from the moment I first called after hearing their as on the radio.
The first step is totalk to someone on the phone who makes an appointment and tells you that you'll need 2 hours for the sales person to spend with you. I said I didn't have 2 hours and suggested we should ded...icate about 30 minutes. They said we should be ok. Well, it wasn't ok. After we'd sat with the sales guy for about 15 minutes and felt like we weren't moving terribly quickly, we politely suggested we speed things up and thataybe we could get to the measuring bit as we only has about another 30 minutes to spare. That's when the pantomime really kicked up a gear. "ohh no, there's no way we can do this in 30 minutes. I won't be able to tell you everything about our company and our manufacturing process". We told him that frankly we didn't care about the company and the manufacturing process, we just wanted a measure and quote.
Questions & Answers
What is the BAL rating of your double glaze windows?
Hi Philip , As we live in the middle of a suburb that has never seen a bush fire , l considered the BAL as not applicable, You could contact Ecostar directly to acertain your individual requirements.
We are fully tested and compliant to BAL 40. We also comply to BAL FZ as long as external BAL FZ steel shutters are fitted.
Any more info, please call 1300 ECOSTAR
The Ecostar Team
I am only interested in noise reduction as I live on a busy road. Could you provide the RW rating of your various products?
Sorry Peter, we missed this question. Our standard double glazed glass unit will eliminate 80% of external noise. If acoustic glass is used in the unit, them almost 100%.
The Ecostar Team
How much does a standard room window cost?
Ni Idea Bernard. I didn't buy the windows.
There are no standard room windows. All Ecostar double glazed windows are individually made to measure for maximum thermal efficiency and noise reduction. The price for the window depends on your choice of design, opening option, double glazed unit spec, colour and much more. That is why we offer free quotations in the comfort of your own home. When you have made your choices, we will leave you with an itemised quotation there and then. To arrange a free quote, call 1300 ECOSTAR.
2 windows 2.4m wide each - $17,000 - after sales discounts ringing boss etc $8,900
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