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Piece of Rubbish!
I had a victa tornado which cut beautifully, decided to go with a "professional mower" when it was time for a new mower, so I brought a hru196 about 12 months ago.... worst purchase in my life, totally regret it. Its too heavy, clogs up all the time, I don't a partially full bag before it clogs up!!!! And it leaves "dags" of cut grass all over the lawn, which is pathetic and embarressing when your being paid to mow someone's lawn...first and last honda, I'll ever "beep" buy!!!! No joy from the dealer either, they just look at me like I'm doing something wrong!!!! Grrrrr!!!!
Why do we have to pay for the bigger bag? it is a problem with the mower so why dont honda pay for it?.I have had a HRU196m1 for a week and im not happy with it.I mowed my back lawn(18x14 metres) the shute blocked 3 times and the grass was only slightly damp.My 25 yr old victa never blocked up.I think honda has a hide to tell us to buy a so called remedy for a design problem they know about .
The chute clogs up
The mower is generally really good with a strong motor and efficient cutting. It works even in long grass. However the chute clogs up in no time and you end up tying the cover up which means you get grass cutting all over you when you mow.
After having used this mower for a long time, I realise the chute doens't clog up if the grass is properly dry but as I live in the tropics, the grass is almost always a bit wet.
Chute is a real problem. If you mowe wet grass you want another mower.
This mower clogs up all the time. Had to use the cheap back up mower to do the lawns properly and it did not clog at all. Honda might think that they are good coming up with these new ideas but having less than half of the back of the mower to eject the grass is just stupid!! Not happy!!
Clogs with grass all the time.
What I needed
Spent a long time thinking if I should spend the money on this lawn mower. Just after my third cut I thought to myself, should've been bought a long time ago.
It has a quiete engine and runs smooth. Good on fuel too.
Had this for three months now and still starts first time. Well see after a year.
Makes my job easier and better
Too too heavy
It has to be the best mower around
I bought one a couple of years ago (with a whipper snipper and blower) and its great for domestic lawns and some handyman jobs I do. Starts first go if you put Honda oil (or 10W-30) in the sump (not in the petrol). I put Victa 4-stroke oil in it and the engine turns over slowly and won't start in winter because the oil was too viscous. Some other minor problems require ongoing maintenance, like the rear catcher plate corroded out in the first year because wet grass stuck to it, and the rear safety rubber splits and needs replacing about once a ...year. Also the air filter is poorly located - in dustry conditions it gets clogged quickly. Being 4 stroke, like all of them, it is not so good on the side of steep sloping lawns as the oil can run out the air filter - so you have to mow with the air filter on the up side. Reliable, cuts slightly wider than other domestic mowers Catcher plate corrosion
Wanted ,cant buy this model in New Zealand any more
In the job of lawn care, I have found this model great, I would like to buy 2 more, but the dealers tell me they don't sell them any more ,so I brought a new hru196,and found that it is to heavy ,doesn't like to pick up wet grass , I have tried different blades ,people in the lawn care game want then they are like gold, Time is money and doing a good job , come on Honda sell me 2 of them.
Light weight ,catch in any weather, great engine,
the only thing i could say is the handle for gound adjustment, make stronger
Happy Honda !
I have two Honda mowers and they are the best I have them regularly serviced. If you want a machine that the professionals use and will do the job every time then get a Honda. They can be expensive to buy however you get what you pay for and they are worth it in the long run.
Quality , reliability and durability.
none to mention.
Today I stopped buying and recommending honda push mowers
Honda Power Equipment you have lost the plot with your mowers.Useless clutch adds 10kg & complexity.The half blocked shute design is stupid.Look like they have been designed by a Uni student who lives on campus and has never mowed a lawn.Why take a great product and turn it into a useless crapbox.Went into Dealer to buy two HRU196D mowers today.Looked at them and thought it was a joke.
The new design handle mounting bracket.
Uneeded heavy clutch.A shute that I couldnt pass wind out of.
Worst Mower Ever
The Honda HRU21 Self Propelled Mower was sold to me as the "Must Have Mower" for the commercial operator. I have had the mower for 3 months and used it 6 times. As a commercial lawn contractor I mow lawns most days. This mower is the worst I have ever used!!!!!! It is the most heavy, cumbersome and back breaking piece of equipment I have ever used. Please....do not buy one. The mower is impractical and extremely overpriced. The drive engagement for far too "abrupt" and the drive wheels leave divots and marks. This is mainly due to the excessive...weight of the machine. I cant stress enough how ridiculously heavy this machine is. In addition, Honda's after sales service was terrible. When I raised my concerns they said that I should be cutting grass at the highest or close to the highest blade setting. That's not real helpful! Easy to start but arent all brand new mowers. Far too heavy. Drive system engagement far too abrupt...Leaves divots and Marks every time it is engaged.
Ive had the HRU 216 for 4 years now.
I am not a professional gardener i just own a large over-grown property on a slope.
Overall i'm really impressed - mainly the engine, so quiet always starts easily and sounds like a helicopter when it idles. Build quality and transmission also flawless.
Only weak point (and sadly an important one, and confirmed by many other reviewers) is the outlet shute - on anything beyong the dryest shortest grass you can be certain of clogging. I no longer bother bagging - grass rarely enters the bag anyway, as it c...
good mower for the dry, if grass isn't too long
purchased a new honda HRU 196M, M for mulcher, 19 inch cut push mower, i've had the mower for 10 months, mowing about 10 lawns per week as an gardening contractor, the mower is very good in the dry, as long as the grass is not very long, if long the grass clippings block the half size shute, and roll into a ball, nearly stalling the machine !! if the grass is slightly damp, the shute gets blocked up when the catcher is only half full.
the motor is very good, and it has a snorkel which is good when dusty, the machine is quite heavy and gave me ...
A very poor mower
This mower continually blocks up due to the small shute. The blade brake is a joke. Why does the public have to allow for idiots. Mowers have been around along time without the need of a blade brake. Honda should go back to the KISS method and once again produce a good mower
Reliable engine. Solid base(weight a slight issue)
Does not catch grass as shute blocks far to easily.
Waste of money
When i purchased a top of the market product i expected it to do a top job, it hardly does. why have honda put that stupid shoot on it?. it clogs up with the shortest of grass. the catcher is hopeless because it gets 1/4 full and the chute clogs up. any moisture just adds to the pain, the enguine is spectacular though, always easy to start and never stops. so why honda do u put a great engine on a poor base???.
i have given up so many times and pulled out the old kmart gardeners choice mower so many times because it doesnt clog up every 10 ...secs, no matter how long the grass is. ive now got a 12 month old mower that i paid $950 for 12 months ago and dont know what to do. Enguine is reliable, powerful, easy to start Clogs up with grass constantly
Honda gone backwards
I've been a lawn mower man for 30 years,always loyal to honda, latest edition from honda is very dissapointing. the smaller chute clogs up far to easy, when the going got tough honda used to get going, now its useless. looks like the last honda i'll buy unless they widen chute!!!!
cuoldn't catch a cold.
Honda Mower - HRU-196M1 - Well & truly met my high expectations!
I had a Briggs & Stratton that was purchased from Aldi break a wheel axel and found I could not get parts to repair, despite the engine being fine, so this time I did some research on line and the majority of reviews pointed to Honda, particularly from guys who use them for a living and I am happy to say that this mower has well and truly lived up to the expectations I had. I have had this mower for approximately 6-8 months and it DOES actually start first time every time, which I was actually surprised by. It is extremely solid and certainly a...ppears well built. It's pretty quiet, which is great if,like me, you have young kids that sleep at lunch time on the weekends. The mulching function is extremely handy, especially if you have a lot of leaves, which I do during autumn. It's also good when the lawn is not too high to mow without the catcher and put the mulch straight onto the lawn. The safety of the blade brake is also reassuring if you have kids and with this particular model you can leave the motor running whilst the blade is actually stationary. I did see "ligedyletch" review which raised the issue of the catcher chute getting clogged, but I have not experienced this unless the catcher was absolutely full to the top, but I dont know whether the mulching funtion would assist in alleviating this issue perhaps. You certainly get a lot in the catcher as a result of it being finely cut etc. I find the handle on the cloth catcher really easy to use, but not sure whether the catcher will have the longevity, being constructed of cloth etc. Reliable, solid, great features, especially in relation to safety, quiet The only slight down side would be that it is a little heavy, which is a reflection of the solid construction, but if you are a little older or think this may be a concern especially if you have a large lawn with a slope or hills then perhaps have a look at the self propelled model.
the best by far
i have been commercial mowie 18 years and i can tell u Honda easily the best i tell u why, ive had the same two Honda's 15 years and im not pulling your leg, been regularly serviced, they are tough machines, in this time i bought other brands and they fall apart, do yourself a favour do not buy anything else
if you regular service them and look after them they will go on forever.
cuts grass very clean, never drops leaves
cant think of one
Superb mower that just purrs along and never misses a beat, the mulching function really works and is no gimmick. I never have had the need to use the catcher so I cant comment on it.
Love it, powerful quiet and economical. This mower has its work cut out, we live on 1.5 acres, and obviously it's not all lawn. However there is still the equivalent of 4-5 smaller blocks. The Honda powers thru the job without any hint of giving up. The finish is superb, any better than a professional ride on mower man has achieved. If you want a serious mower buy this Honda....
None that i have found yet.
Best. Mower. Ever.
After years of near apoplexy caused by lawn mowers designed by people who hate me, I finally caved and bought a "real" mower. My only regret is that I didn't do it a long time ago. This Honda is strong, grunty, reliable, and does a great job, especially mulching. The HRU196D starts first time, every time, even after it has sat for months with fuel in the tank and carb after I forgot to drain it before going overseas. Duh. My only criticism is that the handle locking bolts (halfway up, where you fold it) can come loose and fall out after a few hours mowing. Make sure you periodically check them.
Strong, grunty, reliable, effective.
Watch those handle bolts.
I’ve used a lot of different mowers in my time as a professional mowing contractor, and there are reasons why more contractors use this model than any other machine available in Australia. At nearly $1000 it is an expensive machine but it is also the best machine available. The spare parts network is vast and the availability of parts for machines even as old as 25 years is very reliable. I’ve never been in a situation where I’ve been waiting 6 weeks for parts to arrive – the longest I’ve had to wait is about 3 days, but most common parts ar...e stocked. Our mowers do about 40 hours per week each and we use Castrol Magnatec oil in the engines to protect from start-up wear. Our Honda engines outlast the rest of the mower by a substantial margin. Even with fastidious maintenance, we will have replaced 40 wheels, 20 rubber flaps, 26 air filters, and 5 spark plugs in the mower’s 5 year life but the engine just won’t die – even after 8,000 hours of work and around 12,000 lawn mows it still isn’t blowing smoke or using extra fuel. In that same time we would have already replaced a Briggs & Stratton Intec engine (their OHC engine to rival Honda) 7 times. So in the long run, the Honda engine and Magnatec oil saves us a lot of money, even if more expensive initially. When this model was first released with the new Chinese-made engine, I had a few reservations about how it would perform compared to the previous model. Honda had changed back to the metal engine housing, and the old air filter design. I was pleasantly surprised, though, at the amount of extra power the engine has, even with 4 high lift blades mounted. The ball bearing wheels are nice and big so the mower doesn’t fall into every crack and undulation, the chassis is made from aluminium so it can’t rust and it’s a bit lighter, the single-lever height adjuster is also nice and the 11 height positions provide a good range of cutting heights. If well maintained and not run too fast, the engine will run for around 4 hours on a single 2L tank of fuel (if filled right to the top). The engine is very easy to start and usually starts on the first pull of the rope, and the catcher fills right to the top if the metal catcher screen is regularly cleaned with a scrubbing brush. The mulching plug is also well designed, such that the mower will do a nice job of mulching even if 4 high lift blades are used. The quality of the mulching finish is as good as a dedicated mulcher. In their latest product brochure, Honda touts this model as being suitable for the “serious contractor” yet on-going issues with the model remain unaddressed and Honda seems to have a track record of disregarding criticism. As a professional mowing contractor I’ve found this model has wheels that wear out a lot faster than the previous one. We now change 4 wheels every 6 months at a cost of around $33 each. The rubber flap on the back of the machine wears out every 3 months, and all the joins on the catcher need to be reinforced with self tapping screws and bolts to stop it falling apart when the grass is compressed by foot. There is a hole in the deck, designed for washing the underside of the machine, but while the machine is running, this hole directs grass and dirt into the air filter directly above it – consequently, Honda sells me LOTS of air filters. There is also no way of being able to tell how much fuel is left without unscrewing the cap and letting dirt or water (rain) into the tank. This could be fixed with an LCD display fuel cap or just making the tank out of clear plastic like a line trimmer. The mulching plug is also not a tight fit so up to 6L of grass will sit on top of the plug and, if not regularly emptied, will rust the back hatch – the hatch is made of painted steel, but the side facing the blades understandably loses its protective coat of paint fairly early in the mower’s life.
Questions & Answers
What year was this mower sold? I think it was around 2005.
I'm about to remove the disc cutter with an impact driver.
Does anyone know which direction to undo the nut, Counter clockwise or clockwise?
My manual says the PTO shaft direction is counter clockwise, thanks.
I have a problem with the handle at the back on the right hand side of the mower.The handle is badly corroded and interfere with raising and lowering the mower height.Where can I buy a replacement handle please? regards John.my email is email@example.com.Thanks again.
I suggest you talk to your local friendly Honda dealer who may be able to source a new part for you or may have old mowers around that they can scavenge parts from to repair your mower saving you more money.They get plenty of very cheap trade in mowers ,many of which are handy for spare parts.Give them a call.
|Category||Petrol Lawn Mowers||Petrol Lawn Mowers||Petrol Lawn Mowers|
|Catcher Capacity||60 L|
|Cutting Deck Material||Aluminium Alloy|
|Cutting Width||470 mm|
|Height of Cut||16 mm to 76 mm|
|Manufacturer Warranty||4 year(s)|
|Engine / Motor|
|Engine Name||Honda GCV160 OHV Iron Bore|
|Engine Type||OHV (Overhead Valve)|
|Release date||Sep 2010|
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