Great pram, great value for money
We have used our Dot for 3 years now and I still think it's a great pram. We regularly add and remove the 2nd seat and it's no big hassle. My toddler happily sits in the bottom and baby in the front seat. Fits in the boot of our car well (we have a small car). The suspension is good and the pram is easy to push. The only complaint I would have is that sometimes when unfolding the pram, one of the seatbelt clips can get stuck in the folding mechanism (meaning you just have to re-fold the pram and then unfold it again).
I also bought the bassin...et attachment (secondhand) which is cute for a newborn but you can't have the second seat on when the bassinet is attached. I've never had a flat tyre with the pram - I think they're foam-filled tyres so they can't get flat. Definitely a good design, I would hate to be changing tyres on a pram! The rain cover for the Dot is a bit weird - it kind of fits but not great. It's usable but doesn't feel like it's completely right. I bought the genuine rain cover from Phil & Teds so I'm not sure what's going on with it. But anyway it's not a dealbreaker.
Purchased in August 2016 at Baby Kingdom.
Badly designed - do not buy
When using with two kids (I have tried to use it with a two year old and a baby)
Combinations I have used:
Car capsule on top and second seat behind - you need to remove the material for the main seat or recline the second seat as otherwise the child in the second seat has the front seat in their face (10cm between their face and the front seat).
Baby laying down in main seat, second seat on top - will work when the baby is a newborn. Once they are about 3 months old, there is not enough clearance and your toddler will be sitting on them. Th...
Waste of money
Couldn't agree more with these reviews, this pram is useless for 2 children. I bought mine second hand and wish I never had! It's heavy, the roof is always coming apart, it has flat tyre after flat tyre, my toddler hates the 'second seat'- who wouldn't having the front seat pretty much touching his face, difficult to steer, no room for a bag or basket...the list goes on. Please, if you are thinking about buying this pram, ask yourself whether you love changing tyres, breaking your back after lifting it into the car, or continually fixing the roof/flap.
No basket space, heavy to push and lift
I bought this pram as a double when my second was born, looked like a versatile pram, but once I started using it I realised how awful it is. I find it heavy getting in and out of the boot. The second seat underneath is where I had to put my newborn as my toddler doesnt fit and once that second seat is on there is no space in the basket for anything, and I can't hang my handbag off the handle as it hits my baby in the second seat. I also find putting bub in that second seat annoying with it being so close to the front seat...how is any child me...ant to fit their legs under there??? It is very hard to push and turn, coming from my mountain buggy that is easy to turn with one hand, even with just one child in this pram I find it hard to turn one handed. I've only had this pram a month but looking to sell it and buying a mountain buggy side by side pram. Sooo disappointed after spending $600 on it, so frustrating. Don't waste your money.
Great value for money, easy to use, would recommend
We certainly appreciated the Dot buggy we bought around mid-2013 for our firstborn. It's nice and sturdy and has infant flat position for the early months. It's quite easy to manoeuvre and push the pram up those occasional steps (eg.curb on side of road). The wheels provide adequate shock absorption from bumps on footpaths which I only fully appreciated after recently buying a cheap (lighter) stroller just to take our daughter (now 19months) to the local park, which (the cheaper stroller) I found, was so much harder to handle and so much more...bumpy for daughter compared with the Dot Buggy. It's not the lightest pram on the market (otherwise it would cost more?), but I found it was okay, just have to use both hands lifting it in and out of boot of car. but the weight actually was great for stability, so I still at times take daughter to groceries in this pram as there is room in bottom pocket for me to pack few groceries in. My husband certainly appreciates the sturdiness to protect our daughter when she was a newborn. The good compact size helps to fit in small cars. Downside it's probably not the lightest pram/stroller to take on holidays and I'm not sure whether it works well with two children. Overall I would recommend it (especially for first child) :)
phil and teds dot 1yr review
I bought it a year back when we had second new born boy. Other son was about 18 months that time. We had a problem that it cant be use for a newborn and my other son sitting on top seat. There was literally no room for our newborn and we fear he might be bearing our son weight. There is absolutely no room at all. We had to wait about 4-6 months, changed the pram settings till our younger son was placed in a sitting position and there was sufficient room. We started loving it and took it everywhere with us. Its easy to fold and moved in and out ...of your car boot. Couple of problems we faced but are now careful. Avoid taking it for air travel, we had to replace new rear wheel guards, take them off when you are travelling. Careful when pushing off road, Tyres are quite prone to puncture.
I brought the phil & ted dot shortly after my son was born. I found it light, easy to get in & out of the car, easy to use. My son absolutely loves it. I've never had a problem with it. After a year of being used almost every day it still looks brand new. Love this stroller highly recommend.
Baby underneath has very restricted space
Well what can I say? The dot seemed a very good idea as I have a 2 year old and a 8 week old so the thought of a pram so compact seemed very convenient... but when I put my new born on the bottom flat down and my eldest on the top in the attached seat my new born has very little space and is literally being crushed underneath. There is also velcro under the attachable seat which is dangers as the baby can get scratched luckily my baby is a winter baby so he's wearing trousers. Bottom line my child is pretty much sitting on my new born n he w...as only 4lb when he was born m only weighing 8lb now. I think they need to look into this as its defo not safe for a baby x easy to get on buses ect no room for new born. velcro under seat can scratch child and from reviews it already has.
Mountain Buggy+one vs Pill and Teds Navigator...on the fence
I do not own either a MB of P&T pram...yet....we are still deciding which to buy for our first child, due in Feb 2014, and we want something we could use for two kids in the future, maybe!
We both test-drove both prams (double kit on the back on P&T) in the shop with those baby and 12kg child weights that you can use to see how the pram feels to actually push without finding a child and a baby to actually put in the pram. Mountain Buggy+one was far eaiser to push off, manover, and felt lighter (even though the weight of the prams is very simil...
not for everyone...
I purchased the Dot because of its slim wheelbase and relatively more compact frame than other 3-wheelers. From the first time I used it, my son didn't like being in it... I thought that as time passed, he'd become more comfortable, but he still grizzles, 8 months later, which makes going anywhere in it a chore.
The seat doesn't sit all the way up, so my son strains forward to look out. With the seat recline, it pushes the weight of the baby forwards, so that all of the pressure is applied to the front of the harness, which must become uncomf...
Waste of money! Terrible stroller...
After having our second baby, it quickly became obvious that we needed a double stroller. We were very happy with our Quinny Buzz as a single stroller aside from the fact that it couldn't handle rougher terrain. The Phil&Teds dot seemed like the perfect alternative as it was able to accommodate 2 babies, still had the smaller size of a single stroller and could be used on trails.
Soon after purchasing the stroller, it quickly became glaringly obvious, how low quality it was. The harness, wheel covering, snaps attached to the frame broke and a ...
Phil and teds navigator
It's a great pram really. The sun cover is very large and the extra zip on sun cover is fantastic!
It's reliable and sturdy. But..... Is very heavy to lift and does take up a heap of boot space. It would be great with more ventilation in bassinet. My bub was using the full seat very early as the bassinet is to narrow. But you have to remember its one of the narrowest prams on the market. Overall it is great you can't have everything I guess :)
Lovely to push, reliable, love the sun shade, and the under basket
It's very heavy and awkward to life into the car, it's not very compact. The baby bassinet is very narrow with no ventilation, way to hot to use in summer.
Navigator-complete disappointment, can't even use it.
I purchased this pram to use with my toddler and new baby, an upgrade from a previous Phil & Teds model. We used it for a few weeks before our baby wouldnt fit in the newborn section anymore, extensive communication with Phil & Teds customer service resulted in my baby girl grazing her leg on the sharp Velcro under the toddler seat, when advised by staff to use the pram (with the doubles kit at the front) with the base liner down. They also advised me that there should be no problem using the pram with my newborn in it, and I quote, with her ...legs in a "frog" like position!!! She's just worked out how to straighten her legs and screams hysterically when we go to put the toddler seat on as she is unable to move her legs. My baby outgrew it in a matter of a few weeks, and she was born 6.15 pound. So now I am left with a gap of a couple of months where I am unable to use the pram for my two children, for a number of months, into the baby is big enough to use the doubles kit at the rear. Had I known this, I would have bought an entirely different pram. I feel completely mislead by the marketing of this pram, and am extremely disappointed with Phil & Teds customer service, after spending almost $2000 on two prams unless than 3 years. I've gone from being someone who readily recommended the brand, to someone who will not only never recommend against the brand, ,but will never buy it again. A complete waste of $850.00 that could have been much better spent while on a maternity leave salary. My baby didn't fit in the newborn section within a matter of weeks (with the toddler seat on the front). Poor customer Service
I really wanted to love this pram.
I bought this pram for my 13 month old and newborn, my newborn is now 8 weeks old and 59cms long. She doesn’t fit in the lie flat position very well, if at all, as her feet are squished with her legs bent and the harness cannot be worn as it no longer reaches over her shoulders. Getting her out is difficult even without the double kit on the front. I have found there is no ventilation and quite often she is very sweaty and hot when I get her out (I have taken to using it without the plastic flap attachment for obvious reasons). Not good when y...ou live in a hot country and we’ve experienced a very hot summer this year. Recline is nonexistent for the child on the front, whether this be in the main seat or the double kit. If you are going to use it with a newborn and a toddler, I suggest using the car seat adapter but be aware that the double kit has a weight limit of 15kgs in the rear position. Maybe plan to have your baby in the cooler months! The storage compartment underneath is hard to get to with main seat down in the newborn position. Being aware that the compartment will disappear altogether once it is converted; I bought a Diddie bag in order to gain more storage. Where can I hang the Diddie bag on the pram when I’m using it for two? Nowhere. If I am to hang it from the handle as suggested, I’ll be hitting the youngest child in the head. The sun hood for the double kit is too small when it is used on the front of the pram; I have used the larger one for the main seat with no real trouble. The pram itself is heavy and a pain to fold and unfold. Despite being compact I find that is still takes up a bit of room in the boot. I drive a Honda Accord. I’ve taken to leaving the Dot at home for walks and using a stroller for the older child and strapping the newborn to me in a carrier on shopping trips On the plus side, it does handle very well, and my eldest loves it. It is well made, the materials are of a high quality and the harnesses are easy to adjust. I’m hoping it comes into its own once I’m using the double kit on the back for the youngest. I really do want to love it. Easy to manouvre, handle positions are excellent. No ventilation in main seat, too small for newbown, limited storage, heavy and cumbersome.
Great pram, very narrow and easy to steer
I've been through a number of prams, but love this one. it is very similar in dimensions to the mountain buggy swift but has the bonus of being a double. The pram is easy to switch from front seat with baby in the full recline to the double seat on the back.
narrow, light weight and easy to steer.
things tend to fall out of the basket at the bottom, as it is open at the back. the double seat on front has a fair bit of movement if the safety strap is not completely tightened. instructions are terrible, all in pictures, like the ikea instructions.
|Category||Double Prams & Strollers and 3-Wheel Prams & Strollers|
|Seating Type||Single and Tandem|
|Suitable Age||0+ months|
|Max User Weight||20 kg|
|Bassinet Compatible||Yes (Sold Separately)|
|Capsule Compatible||Yes, with addition of adapters|
|Features||Arm Bar, Height-Adjustable Handle, Locking Front Wheels and Under-seat Storage|
|Manufacturer Warranty||1 year(s)|
|Folded Dimensions||30 x 59 x 80 cm|
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