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Sunbeam BM 4500 Excellent product
Purchased today 7/07/16.. After returning with the Bread maker I read the product information, washed the product and loaded it with ingredients as per the instructions... Made a perfect loaf of bread... Very happy with the product and yes if you follow the instructions it is easy to use... Not sure why other people have had a negative experience...
I have always bought Sunbeam products as they have always been well made and reliable. So when my old Breville machine, a gift and perfect bread every time, died, I instinctively chose a Sunbeam replacement last year (2015). The control buttons were very unresponsive but I persevered. I still can't get any of the custom buttons to work. The white bread was fine, but has recently deteriorated, but everything else is undercooked, flour doesn't get mixed in properly, or it doesn't rise properly. I have tried many bread flours, combinations, etc. and the results, apart from basic white, are appalling. I am very disappointed indeed and cannot honestly recommend this product.
Don't waste your time or money
This machine...was SUCH a waste of money and time. So many variations of 'bread' this machine produced, 80% of which went straight to our chooks, the other 20% we ate, without gusto. At first thinking it was my error with the bread mixes I was using, i called their customer help line and was asked: "What bread maker are your using?" I replied, "Sunbeam Bakehouse." After a moment pause I hear the dull reply, "Oh." After another pause she added, "It makes good jam though!"
Basically this machine simply doesn't get hot enough to activate the yeast. It's a terrible machine. Keep shopping.
I am shocked to see so many negative reviews. I've had mine for just over a year and it has made perfect fluffy loaves of all types every day. The express loaf feature is amazing for urgent loaves too. We absolutely love this machine or cannot recommend it highly enough. Waking to the beautiful smell of cooking bread in the morning is something you never get sick of. Thank you sunbeam for an incredible machine
I spent a lot of time reading reviews (mostly negative) and under the advice of a friend got the Sunbeam Bakehouse BM4500. Its awesome, we have not had any issues with this machine and its making perfect loaves at least twice a day. We have made white, french and wholemeal loaves and they were just as expected. Would totally recommend this machine!
Good Machine, BUT
Made a perfect white bread loaf first off, but can't get the wheat loaf going. Dialed Pr.3 (Wheat) and it just sits there inert for half an hour. Rang the help desk at Sunbeam and was told it was a faulty chip, and take it back and exchange it. I did (80km round trip). New machine does the same thing!
Back to Google where I found the comment above: "There is IMHO a weird delay in Whole Wheat menu in that you START, and it sits warming the pan for 30 minutes which possibly is not really necessary but could make user wrongly think the Whe...at function is faulty ". It seems the lady on the Sunbeam help desk obviously doesn't know about the (40?min) delay built into the wheat program. The first loaf from the Wheat program was barely half height - clearly there is a lot of testing to do with this. BTW: This is the latest model BM2500 with the stainless steel square shape, not the pictured "Compact"
I wish I never bought this
I have been very disappointed with our Sunbeam Bakehouse BM4500 since we bought it. Our old bread machine would make any kind of bread - white, multigrain or wholemeal perfectly everytime - this machine only bakes white bread well - every other kind comes out as a heavy brick. I wish I'd read these reviews before I purchased this machine.
Also if we use the timer to delay cooking the bread it always comes out as a brick even if it's a white bread loaf.
Very disappointing, will not have another sunbeam breadmaker again and will tell others to avoid them.
Fault with paddle-pan connection
Have had this unit for not quite 2 years and not cooked many loaves at all. When it works it is fine but we frequently have a loaf that fails to mix and rise properly and find the paddle has come off the during mixing at some stage even though it is placed on and upright when ingredients are added. It is not a firm or tight fit to start with.
Inferior to older model: noisy as anything, burn myself removing bread
I've owned a previous Sunbeam model for more than 15 years (the cooltouch bakehouse) and was very happy with it. I've only let it go because after a move, the bake cycle began tripping the circuit breaker so I could only use it for dough. Given I was so happy with Sunbeam before, I bought this model. What a mistake.
Firstly, the old bakehouse tin went in with a simple quarter twist. This one has clips that you have to push the tin into and pull it out of. They are so tight that I struggle to do it, and when the breakmaker is hot at the end o...f the cycle, I've burned myself several times trying to get enough leverage to pull it out, and putting it in, end up pushing buttons on the control panel which means I have to reset it. Very unhappy about that. Secondly, it's so noisy!! The old bakehouse had a plastic housing that was not only cool to touch, but insulated the noise. This one with its metal case might look schmick, but is super loud when mixing, and when the fruit/nut dispenser goes, wow! It would wake the whole house. What's the point of having a delay if you can't possibly run it overnight because it would wake people? I have a small baby and my old unit could run without disturbing anyone. This one has already woken bub on both occasions I've used it. On the plus side, I do like the collapsible blade, and the option to do a 500g loaf (as well as 750g and 1kg). But otherwise, its a terrible step backwards. I will be seeking a refund.
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Waste of time
Have tried to make various types of bread. Have followed the instructions carefully due to the warning you must measure the ingredients. Have made sure the paddle is upright. Bread, if you can call it that is hard lump 9 out of 10 times. Waste of my time. Bought so my daughter and I could enjoy freshly made bread without all the preservatives. Will be taking it back and I don't normally do that.
Dough dough dough it's all its good for its crap machine thanks for a crap product not recommend would not recommend does not do what it claims waste of money don't buy it as it crap machine that does not work disappointed disapointed thanks again for a crap product enjoy my hard earned money went to waste
Getting the best from your Bakehouse
Update 5/5/18. I've just discovered that if you want to avoid the fiddling about needed to make dough from the basic ingredients (flour, margarine, salt, milk powder, brown sugar, bread improver all carefully measured out) you can use the Bakehouse to make dough from bread mix, e.g. Lauke or Lighthouse. Saves a bit of time and a lot of concentration! Let it stand for 30 minutes and put in 200 degree oven for thirty minutes. Results, excellent.
Update 27/6/16. I've since discovered that the best way to get consistent results is to use the bread...
We've had this machine for two years now, baking many loaves a week. It bakes a perfect loaf pretty much every single time, I couldn't fault it!
I don't know why people are having problems with the folding blade, if you pour the flour in reasonably carefully it'll stay up every time. I also sometimes use the butter to wedge it upright if needed.
All I all though, it's a very reliable breadmaker!
Couldn't agree more
I have been making the most perfect bread using this machine. Gee I'm glad I didn't read the reviews here first. Keeping the floppy paddle up is easy. Just pour the flour in so that it keeps it up. I use it for pizza dough a lot and get the perfect pizza crust. My only complaint is that the paddle rubs against the baking chamber, which is non-stick and has rubbed a half circle of the non-stick surface off. I even bought a second chamber and it's done the same with that.
Followed instructions but have not had a perfect loaf yet.Think we might return it in exchange for another brand.We have been making bread in our old machine (sanyo) for 15 years.Will have another try but running out of patience.
December 14th 2014 Update:
Well we persevered and now make perfect bread,rolls etc.Have no idea what we did wrong!!
Design fault with the blade
today was my third attempt - blade won't stay upright and collapses - did not see any doughy ball happening just a flat rock hard doughy lump - had no trouble with my previous breadmaker. Would rather have the hole in the bottom of the bread as the second loaf it made I had to dig out the blade out of the inside of the bread.
Will take back to Harvey Norman's tomorrow
Bread does not rise
I bought this breadmaker and it blew a fuse in the house, after this the element did not work. The bread rose beautifully but did not cook. So I took it back for replacement. The bread does not rise properly in the replacement machine. I am left with small bricks, half the size they should be, and the texture is very bad. I have tried careful measuring, using white bread on wholemeal settings, and a shop-bought commercial bread mix. None of them work. I have tried now about ten times and each time the bread has been really bad. I used to have a...Breville before this and I could use both commercial mixes and recipes from the book, everything worked fine. I really don't feel like trundling this machine back to the shop but I suppose I will have to. Very disappointed.
My old Lumina breadmaker eventually died after several years of producing at least 3 loaves per week. The only problem I had with the Lumina were the holes left in the bottom of the loaf by the paddles. This time I wanted to try a breadmaker with retracting paddles. We decided on the Sunbeam Bakehouse because it was not too expensive and had a single retracting paddle. I started off by following the white and wholemeal recipes in the book that came with the machine. Very disappointing, the consistency all wrong, which meant I would have had to ...experiment with water, and flour quantities. (At over 4 hours per loaf, that becomes very tiresome.) I then tried my regular wholegrain recipe I'd used with the old machine, and bingo, a perfect loaf! Beautifully light and fluffy (better than it ever was from the Lumina), and no holes in the bottom. I could not be happier! Retracting Paddle The recipes in the book did not make good bread.
I think I know why so many people are getting dud results with this machine. It's the stupid folding blade. It's supposed to be clever and not leave a hole in your loaf, but it flops down when you dump the flour in. Once you've added all the ingredients, dig your fingers down and make sure the blade is standing upright. If you leave the blade flopped down you end up with a brick. This method worked alright for me for almost two years, but now the blade just flops down randomly during the cycle. I've had four dud loaves in a row.
The other t...hing I don't like is how loud it is. Even though it has a time delay function, we haven't been able to wake up to fresh bread because it wakes the entire house. I would recommend spending a bit more and getting something decent I bought it mostly for its small size. Why does it need to continue beeping for ages once the bread is done? Two beeps would suffice to let you know.
Questions & Answers
Hi I am wanting to know what the cycle on this is eg: knead, rest, rise etc, in particular how many rise cycles it does as I would like to be able to stop machine and take blade out before the baking cycle..thanks
It depends on what Menu you select. Any of the menus that cook the bread do a mix, knead, rise, knead, rise, cook cycle. Don't know what the Turbo ones do.
Great idea taking out the blade before the final rise! I'll try that from now on.
Looks like you have to be careful how long you hold the Start/Stop button as a press and hold for 2 -3 seconds will clear the selected menu.
thought i might just turn the power off as it should hold its cycle, would be the same as a power cut
There is no option to pause the bread maker during any of the cycles however It is normal for the bread maker to have built-in pauses between mix and bake functions. When in Turbo mode, the timer setting cannot be adjusted as the bread maker automatically sets a specific time for your bread (around 1 hour). The Timer settings can be adjusted in other modes from the menu this might be a option for you to be able to take the blades out. Caution: Kneading blade or the bonus blade hook will be hot. Allow bread to cool before removing blade.
Hopefully this helps you.
I received my 4500 today and have just put in my first load tonight. It kneads perfectly, but when the baking was supposed to start, it beeped six times and stopped. I tried the bake only setting and it still does the same thing (six beeps and stops). Any idea what I’m doing wrong?
I have just sent you a private message if you could kindly respond via that please.
I have a new sunbeam bake house compact. I’ve tried twice but each time the loaf comes out about 1/2 size and with a 2 inch frill of something of consistency of potato crisps at the top. Any suggestions?
From the product manual it does state- Bread can be heavily affected by season and dry heat. Please add more water to bring the flour together if this occurs. It is normal for the height and shape of each loaf to vary depending on
the ingredients, accurate measurement of ingredients and the room temperature.
I have attached the product manual for you https://sunbeam-app-staging.s3.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/BM4500_20EM1_%28ANZ%29_ba9fcb7d27.pdf & if you refer to pages 10-34 this will give you some recipes idea's & how to cook different types of bread which you might find useful.
No trouble at all.
- GTIN14: 00999992104547
- MPN: 2079, 35902763 and BM4500
- GTIN13: 9311445018705
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