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I have a Talon Trisecta garden shredder, can you please advise where I can get it maintained / repaired.
I live in Enoggera Brisbane 4051.
I would really appreciate your your advice.
Robin Brown 0432714601
Whoever you bought it from should know of a maintainer. Bunnings used to sell them or a machine very like them (down to interchangeable parts). Not sure what's wrong with yours - there's not a lot in them to maintain; an electric motor that non-electricians shouldn't touch, an inlet shute, an outlet shute, and a pair of blades on a rotating plane that can be removed/replaced with the right-sized Allen key (Which if you bought it new, should have one). Main thing with the Allen keys is to make sure the hex-hole is cleaned and the key inserted to the max depth. If it's really stiff, additional twist with a shifting spanner or even pliers would solve the problem. The blades are replaceable, over-the-counter item, available online; or you can sharpen them yourself with a wet-stone/whet-stone with a great deal of caution and a pair of gloves. Or a belt sander with even more caution and lots of cooling.
If there's an electrical problem - bear in mind, the micro-contact needs to be completely(!) screwed together with the bottom hand - even an auto-electrician might be able to help.
But it's not much more complicated than a large electric drill.
Where can I buy a a complete cutter head, with blades and screws, for a Talon as200100 mulcher/shredder.
Where can I buy a a complete cutter head, with blades and screws, for a Talon as200100 mulcher/shredder.
Try Bunnings Special Orders. They used to sell the Talon brand.
Alternatively, detach your cutter head and take it in to Bunnings and compare it with the Ozito shredder they're currently selling. It looks like it came out of the same factory as the Talon brand, might be an interchangeable head.
With a lot of those items, sadly, you can find yourself up for an expensive part (and no guarantee) whereas for a few $ more, you can get a complete new unit, with a guarantee. (And your old unit is now rubbish). The head and the blades will be the most expensive part of the tool apart from the motor (maybe).
And while I'm content with my Talon at the price I paid for it and the amount of work I ask of it, I wouldn't buy one again. I'd go for the more expensive grinder-shredder machines, as against something with whirling little blades that are difficult to sharpen. (And easy to cut yourself with!)
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Start with Bunnings Special orders. They aren't sold by Bunnings under the same name anymore, but identical items are being sold under different labels.
A quick Google turned up:
Which looks like the right part. They also have the weirdo screws at $2.75 ea - probably worth it, $11 for 4 screws. But! - I can't verify that this is a good company, I've never dealt with them.
I have sharpened my old blades on a belt sander - but even with gloves and locking pliers this is very dangerous. And you have to keep them cool, dunk them in water, or the steel loses its tempering; becomes soft.
How much is it please and can you post to Romford Essex?
Um... this is an Australian site, and you're in England? Need to consult Google and find if there's some sort of hardware/home-garden equipment store near you. An equivalent item (bladed) is probably about 150 British Pounds. A better item (crusher) about twice that.
From where can i buy
Do a google search on 'garden shredder'. I got mine from Bunnings but now they mostly sell Ryobi brand. Note there's two main types - bladed cutter and geared crusher. Crusher types are more expensive but probably better in the long run, particularly for large gardens.
Turn it on and press ciircuit switch and just shuts off after 5 seconds
A number of issues could be causing your fault.
1. Remove shute and check how freely the motor rotates:
A. If it is stiff, you could have a tightly wound collection of fibrous material stuck under the cutting head - if you do, dig it all out until you can clearly see the drive shaft.
B. If "A" is clear and the motor is still stiff, you have problems with the bearings. They will need to be replaced. Search YouTube for info on how to do it. The cost of parts should be less that $20.
2. If "1" is not the cause, then you have an electrical fault. This could be one of two things:
A. In the past you may have overheated the motor and cooked the electrical windings which are now short circuited and drawing excessive current. If this is the case, the option is to try and find a replacement motor - good luck
B. The overload sensor is stuffed. This could be due to age, electrical contact arcing, dust ingress, or simply mechanical fatigue. In which case you have two options, clean it, or replace it.
does anyone know where i can purchase a on/off switch for Talon garden shredder model number AS200100
Fortunately the switch on mine is still working after 18 years. Not sure where you would get one, but try removing it and check for part numbers and then try Google and electrical/electronic part suppliers.
A solution you may want to try is to dismantle the switch, give it a good clean and use a contact burnishing file on any arc damaged contacts. Generally most switches on this size are easy to pull apart.
Anyone know where I can purchase a replacement red key that is required to switch on this garden shredder?
Does it come with a collection bin for the wast
Its designed to dump straight down from the exit. To collect the chips you have three option:
#1 Dump straight onto the ground (good when the location is where you are building your compost heap)
#2 Dump into a short wheel barrow positioned under the outlet
#3 Dump into a heavy duty bag (my preference - I secure it to the outside of the outlet with a stretchy rubber strap. When my compost bins are full I just leave the clippings in the bag to begin composting)
I was using the shredder doing some small sticks etc. for about 3/4 hr. and then it just stopped and now will not start. Have I burnt out the motor?
I need to replace the blades and SCREWS on the Talon garden shredder. Can you help please? My email address is [email removed]
Screws available at any industrial screw/bearing supplier.
Check part numbers on the following items to confirm or contact All Mower Spares. They may also stock the screws.
The V blade is available here: https://www.allmowerspares.com.au/genuine-talon-v-cutter-electric-shredder-blade-522-09-46-01-577-29-21-01.html
Shredder Blade here: https://www.allmowerspares.com.au/genuine-talon-shredder-blade-sho002-573-95-42-01.html
Parts also available overseas, price postage/shipping can sometimes be cheaper than you think.
Pretty sure Ryobi ones will fit, because Ryobi are now using the same Chinese manufactured machines as Talon. They are basically the same as the old Talon ones, just re-branded as Ryobi. You can buy them in Bunnings at times. OutdoorKing use to sell a set of blades and bolts to suit the following but unfortunately they are discontinued. I am sure plenty of places are still stocking them.
Talon: 79 25 00-01, 579250001, 522 41 18-01,
Ryobi: A5003, ACC030
McCulloch: 577292501 Genuine Talon, Ryobi, McCulloch, Homelite Chipper Blade N/A
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IanM is correct, Outdoorking no longer stock blades. Bunnings advised me they are no longer available as McCulloch (agent) no longer supply these blades.
I just purchased four pairs (eight blades) from Hong Kong via eBay. Search eBay for the following description and seller:
* 4pcs/2Pair Garden Shredder Chipper Blade Set For Eco ES1600 McCulloch MCS2001
* Seller information cskwin2015 (387760 )
The eight blades cost me $25.80 delivered to Melbourne, Vic. That works out to $6.45 per set = cheap. It only took 7 days for delivery.
When you look at the pictures on the sellers site, they provide full dimensions of the blades.
I used a Vernier to confirm they would fit before I ordered. screw centres being critical. The blades that I received match perfectly. The only minor critique is the original blades had curved ends to match the circle the blades spin in. The replacement blades are not curved on the ends (straight), which is cheaper to manufacture. I don't think this minor difference makes any difference to the chipping performance.
Where to buy?
If you mean the shredders as a whole, they are no longer available new. Try secondhand on Gumtree or eBay. Ryobi now makes a shredder that is almost identical. I've seen the Ryobi ones for sale in Bunnings Hardware.
If you can find a good secondhand Talon at a reasonable price that would be my choice.
I have a Talon Trisecta Garden Shredder which will not start . I suspect a problem with the safety switch but it could be the on/off switch. Have you any advice and are parts available? Thanks in anticipation of a response.
First of all make sure there is no debris stuck around the safety switch. With power turned off, unscrew the two side retainer screws and take the intake chute off of the mount. Give this a good clean. Secondly, if it still won't go, the problem may be a blown internal fuse. I am not sure where this could be located or if it even has one. Thirdly, I have a feeling the problem could be with the capacitor. In fact this is the most likely reason why it won't start. You can purchase these fairly cheaply on places like eBay, but you will need to take the cover off the motor to find out the number and specifications. These details will be printed on the side or top of the capacitor. A WORD OF WARNING. Never touch the terminals on the capacitor as these are capable of giving you a nasty jolt. Before touching any capacitor always use a screwdriver (or something similar) that has insulated handles and touch the metal tip across the two terminals. This will instantly short out any residual energy and the capacitor will be safe to handle. If in doubt wear some rubber gloves. The capacitor terminals usually just clip on, but in some cases these may require soldering. If any of this sounds too difficult you may need to take the whole shredder to a qualified electrical technician.
In addition to IanM response, you also need to check the electrical continuity of the wiring from the active pin on the mains plug all the way through the switches and motor and back to the neutral pin on the mains plug. To do this test, you only need a basic multimeter which will have an ohm (continuity) test function.
Aside from the start capacitor, the most likely fault could be; interlock switch (operated by third hold down screw on shredder cover); overload circuit breaker; mains switch; mains plug; or loose/disconnected wire. Note the switches are all mechanical and could have dirt build up inside that is stopping the electrical flow. If you find one of the switches is the problem you maybe able to open it up and clean the gunk out.
WARNING: if you don't have any electrical training, don't try to do any electrical testing with the power connected.
Thanks AndyE. Good things to consider. I have a feeling it will be the capacitor, having had two of these go on different brands of shredders. When they go they usually just go without any warning. On occasion the motor may seem sluggish to start, but generally there is no warning. The other switches and wires generally do not play up unless the operator has been very rough (e.g. stretching, pulling the cables, not cleaning the unit regularly, or a branch has fallen across the leads at some time). Re the interlock switch, this is a definite possibility if some dirt or gunk or oil has gotten into it. I am sure the operator has pressed the reset button??? That would actually be the very first thing to try if the machine will not start. lol!
Motor stopped, pressed re-set switch but it will not re-start. What can I do next?
Have you opened it up to check that there is nothing stuck/wrapped around the moving parts, or the shute is not blocked? Also check that all of the safety fasteners are secured, or it will not start (safety mechanism)
Hi, I can't add much but I'd check if something has jammed in or under the blade assembly plate. Use a piece of wood to chock the plate if you intend to undo the blade assembly nut on the top. After that, I'd go to ebay and see if I could buy a secondhanf unit cheply anough to use for spares. If you have lots of spare cash ($549 RRP) take a look at the SupaSwift CC3300 Chipper Chopper. It was recommended to me and has what seems to be a better blade arrangement (4 flat bades in a cross pattern - looks more agressive that the Talon blade setup). Good luck.
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