- GT Manual (2012-2020)
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If you love driving the Toyota 86 is a great little car that is relatively cheap to own.
The handling of the car is phenomenal. The car corners like its on rails with minimal body roll. The feel through the steering is very good. You know precisely what the front wheels are doing.
The factory fitted 16" Yokohama tyres on the GT aren't the best for grip IMHO. I've upgraded to the factory 17" wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyres. This makes a vast improvement to the grip. No more oversteering ! I would also recommend getting a full size s...pare wheel for the car. Standard they come with a tyre repair kit which is pretty useless if you have a blown out sidewall. There's a slot in the boot to fit either a space saver or the full size alloy wheel. I bought my 2015 model car used with 20,000 km and so far it has been very reliable. It also comes with Toyota fixed price servicing so the services are relatively cheap for the 1st 3 years. The MY16 GT model comes with a few nice touches that the earlier models didn't (Reverse camera, electric folding mirrors, digital speedo etc) The owners manual recommends Premium 98 unleaded petrol which is about 20 cents/litre more expensive then regular unleaded. So the 50 litre tank will cost you about an extra $10 to fill. A lot of people poo poo the performance of the 86 but to me its fine. Sure there are much faster cars 0-100 km/h but its not a pissing contest so who cares. It accelerates pretty well IMHO. Search youtube "Chris Harris Toyota 86" to see what its all about.
Toyota 86 experience
Bought this car and can I say it's amazing. Performance is better than expected and handling is a dream come true. Able to do twist and turns with ease on the mountains. Downside is the torque dip on 3rd gear but this can be fixed with a custom tune. Dashboard can be a bit better as well as it is laggy. Running costs is not that cheap if you are tracking it or driving like a race car. If a daily car, you will probaly average around 9L per 100km. Overall for the price range, I would recommend if you are looking for a budget NA sports car.
Perfect Budget SportsCar
This car is the perfect weekend sports car, with exceptional handling and steering feel. Throttle and braking response is acceptable and overall, it is an absolute joy to drive on backroads.
As a bonus, this car looks great from the outside and has all the necessary features for interior comfort.
The space for rear passengers is minimal and only to be used on short journeys, however the seats can be folded to produce quite a large albeit narrow boot.
Fuel usage requires 98 octane but I have experienced a low consumption average of around 8L/100km.
Overall, no issues with the car and maintenance remains cheap as it is a Toyota.
For a quick little sports car to rival the mx5
This is a great little car. I owned one for a short while. I would still have it, except that I made one big mistake. I took a 370z for a drive. Oh man, what, I say WHAT a difference! I put the Toyota on the market the same day. Not that the Toyota is bad or anything.
Well, look, you really cannot compare the two cars. They really are world's apart. And, for what the Toyota is supposed to be: a cheap, fun rear wheel drive sport's car with a willing engine that loves to rev and wonderful, exciting handling, I don't think you can go wrong. ...It really is what it is. For the price, the Toyota is a deadset bargain. I shouldn't be saying things like: the Nissan has a much better interior, is built better, is faster, is sexier. Dammit, the Nissan is nearly twice the price of the little 86. Of course it's gonna be made of higher quality stuff. Or at least it SHOULD be for the money you are expected to fork out to buy one. They could be compared to an MX-5. I owned one some years ago. Quite liked it, but, for the same reason I sold the 86, it didn't have that much power, and I am a bit of a lazy driver. I like torque under my feet. I don't want to have to wring the damned engine's neck every time I get in it. Now, one question; why did Toyota bother collaborating with Subaru? I am sure Toyota could have come up with a better engine than that. For that matter, why didn't Subaru offer something like their engine in the wrx? I hear the main issue is fitment. What about a modern 2jz? It's a shame. The 86 is a good car that could have been great. I guess the same can (and is often) said about the mx5. Needs more power. But still, millions of people love 'em. Of course, power costs money, and if you want more power, well, then the price goes up. No one can really complain about the price tag for a new one of these. But they can frown at its unwillingness to accelerate in that nasty little flat spot around 3500 in the rev range.
- GT Manual (2012-2020)
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Fun car to drive. Terrible customer service. Loosing coolant
We bought the car because it looks good, handles very good and is well priced. It is not a very practical car if you got family. There is not much room in the back for passengers. It is a sports car! It is very good on fuel and we even took it for a long holiday trip. The downside on our car is the coolant. It needs to be monitored !!! Somehow it disappears. An oil sample (not performed by Toyota) taken by me and tested in Brisbane, found a high level of sodium (398 ppm) present. Possible coolant. It was suggested to perform an oil change and d...o another pressure test, which Wide Bay Toyota says is not necessary because there is nothing wrong with the car. Another bad point is maintenance. To change spark plugs the engine has to be lifted up, to get to them. Big job! Lucky I got another 70000 km till than. If the engine lasts that long.
Grown Ups Go-Kart
A rebadged Subaru, build quality , paint and finish could be improved for a Toyota. It has quite good seats and decent interior, rear seat room is tight and boot space is small , the compromise in having a sports car is evident , sorting out interior noises and niggles can be fixed if you look online , though my dash rattle was simply just the speaker cover not being supported enough . Its a great car to have fun in, its platform is engineered, designed and taken up a performance notch to be somewhat raw , as ride comfort maybe just enough to s...atisfy some types of drivers, with some fail safe features if you try beyond your ability. It's handling limits are best explored in a controlled environment like a race track. Good points are that it is very economical on fuel, service costs are good, and a reliable engine which delivers enough power for city driving and in ordinary situations, could be more responsive in a twisty road, track, or mountain pass, but it has its good moments when it can shine and put a smile on your face, and as such retains some respect amongst certain groups of people.
DO NOT BUY
I've owned my Toyota 86 for a year and a half now and have driven 50,000kms. I consider myself well placed to comment on the quality of this vehicle.
This is the most unreliable I have ever (I repeat) ever owned. Apart from the look of this vehicle and paint quality, which is fantastic, the following is a list of issues which have occurred:
- Constant rattle from rear of vehicle while driving (this is a recognised fault by Toyota, it was fixed under warranty. If it affects your vehicle get it in for servicing)
- Transmission crunching/...meshing from 3rd to 4th. Transmission cannot be shifted easily from 1st to 2nd. Transmission has difficulty shifting down from 6th to 5th. (Toyota has fixed crunching/meshing, have not found a solution to the others. Toyota's advice is to go easier on the transmission - what the hell!!! this is supposed to be a sports car and I'm being told to "baby" the car) - Loud/screeching noise from drivetrain when reversing and braking (rear diff fluid replaced under warranty to fix problem. This was required WELL before the manufacturer's scheduled fluid change), - Air in clutch line (fixed under warranty)
my 2nd girl after first.
its a great car with great speed that's why got fined 3 times..lol
$420 for red light
$2430 for over speed (170 km/hr)
$380 for over speed in 60 zone.
but still I jus love my bebs even though I have been charged for so many times still cant think about any other car.
Every morning its excite me to go to my work, make me feel proud when hang around with my frens.
I enjoy every moment when m in a driving seat.
40 dollers to fill the tank!! Its amazingly fast regardless off what people tell you!! And mines an auto!!!!! Amazing looking car, but you do feel the road more then most other cars!!
I owend a rx8 before this and the rx8 was my dream car but not anymore ;)
- GTS Automatic (2012-2020)
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Packed with features, fun to drive, reliable & cheap to run. Just wish it came in other colours!
Not the fastest car on the road but geez its fun to drive! Guaranteed to put a smile on any driver that loves a good drive. Blackline Edition only comes in white with black striping. Just wish Toyota had a couple more colour options for this particular limited edition model
Love My 86
Well, my 86 GTS is my second car. The other is a Tickford Falcon. Different cars for a different drive and I love them both but for different reasons. The 86 feels like a sports car and feels quick due to the low stance. Whilst it could do with a spare wheel, better stereo, reversing camera, etc. most of these add to the weight and would slow it down even more. If you have one of these cars just enjoy the experience. It was never meant to be a muscle car or a family runabout. I hear there are Cosworth upgrades on the way, smiling already. :)
a nissan 370 z ..0-100 in 5 secs...toyota 86 0-100 in 7.5 secs..thats about as quick as family sedan..really those who compare the 2 are joking...nissan 370z v6 245kws vs toyota 86 boxer 4cyl 2.0 good motor but needs turbo plus the nissan 370z just looks sexier better meaner..the fact that so much hype has gone on about this car must be toyota has paid off the motoring journos...get a NISSAN 370Z
Putting the fun back into driving
I'm not a "driver's driver". My previous car was the highly parkable SMART Cabrio. But when I decided to change this time around I wanted a sports car that I could handle with oodles of style and a grrr under the bonet that just felt good. The 86 was by far the front runner, even before Jeremy Clarkson gave it a rave review.
I got the racing orange, GT auto version. I've driven in from Sydney to Albury and back in a day without the slightest complaint from buttock or lower back. I've whizzed around the Northern Beaches and I've rumbled along...unsealed tracks. As some other reviewers have mentioned, the suspension is a bit hard over rocky terrain, but my 86 wasn't phased. I'm asked weekly by random passers by how she handles and whether I'd recommend buying an 86. They always comment that they love the style. I honestly don't believe there's anything as stunning on the market in the same price bracket. I'm not a car stereo officionado, so it's more than good enough for me. I've never had a maintenance issue or paint problems. I guess the lack of spare tyre and inbuilt reversing cameras are my only regrets.
Great, and probably too good a chassis for public roads
You see, the original AE86 had a perfect chassis for a public road and enough power for it's feather weight. It was a recipe that Toyota got spot on in the early eighties and probably a better raw road car than the new86 that is much more refined yet less practical due to it's coupe design. The original AE also had an engine note to die for unlike the drone of the GT flat four :( The AE86 is legendary in Japan and no one really understood it until they were taken for a spin with someone that new how to drive it properly. Trouble is, i think the...GT86 is just too competent, too balanced and has more than enough real world power than most people will ever need on a public road despite what all the stat nerds say even before they have tested one. If you really love driving a loose tail happy RWD's you'll absolutely love this car and understand what all the fuss is about and if you've never practiced, learnt about or experienced "controlled oversteering" (drifting) it can really catch you out, be warned, best learn this technique on a closed circuit/track with plenty of run off for when you do finally loose it. So back to the point, its a great car that can feel a little boring crawling around at city traffic pace and it's a little frustrating when stuck in the head numbing, start, stop and snore. Its cabin is very basic but its built at a price so something had to give and I'm glad it wasn't anything that made it such a brilliantly engineered drivers car. My only complaint my car and a few owners experienced an awful manual gearbox that when cold can be downright appalling through the gates especially 1st to 2nd, mine was one of those so I sold it to a dealer. I'm now looking for a rare as hens teeth AE86 that hasn't rusted through, could be mission impossible but I'm staying optimistic. If all else fails and people demand silly money for rusted relics I might bite the bullet and take my chance on another GT86 (with a nice gearbox). Many people don't understand this car but if they invest a little time, money and effort on a track with an advanced driver trainer they'll be astounded to find what this car can actually do and understand why nearly every driving expert rates the 86 so highly. If you don't, you'll feel like you bought a super low riding coupe with a T or S badge and nothing else, yes you'll feel confused as to what you bought and expert reviewers absolutely love it! For 29k there is nothing new on the market that offers the same RWD experience.
Thougths after 30k (18 months) auto GTS
I must say I still love the look and handling of the car. I'm sorry to say that's about it though. The auto transmission is next to useless unless in manual mode. In auto my car races to 6th by about 50km/h which is normal according to Toyota with a kick down so slow it's dangerous. The stereo is terrible sound wise with the added bonus of it frequently freezing if you have some accessory plugged in. The trim in both doors rattle with some bass frequencies even at medium levels. I've had the steering wheel replaced (started to peel badly) and...leaks fixed on the engine under warranty. Maybe I got a Friday afternoon car?. The upside is my wife now has my 86 to drive ;) So in summary don't buy the auto unless you enjoy corolla like performance, save some dollars to replace the stereo and watch the engine for leaks and the steering wheel for peeling.
Japan's ultimate rear wheel machine
Toyota has revived sports with the 86. I drove both the manual and automatic and i say they both are amazing. They are both tempting and hard to choose. The GT model has everything you need if you just want to enjoy the drive and the GTS has those extras like dual air con, partial leather seats, paddle shifters for auto, touch start ignition and HID headlamps. If you interested in modding the 86, the GT model would be ideal as its cheaper than the GTS. The only downside is the waiting period for the 86 if dealers have no floor stock and majorit...y of the floor stock are already sold. These are ordered from factory with waiting period around 6 months. That's what makes this car hot and unique on the roads. responsive auto, sporty look, unique nothing besides the long waiting period
Great value for money
I bought the GTS 12 months ago to replace the MX-5 I had sold 12 months earlier because I thought the new gen 4 MX-5 was ready to launch.
The 86 is a lovely looking car. A real head turner everywhere I take it. It is fun to drive but a bit bumpy compared to my MX-5. I would only ever run premium unleaded fuel in the MX-5 so it is no issue using this fuel in the 86. Actually I think it improves performance and mileage. I have not had any problems with the paint work on my 86 so am keeping my fingers crossed I don't. I also love the sa...t nav. but wish I had reversing sensors & camera too. The hands free phone is also fabulous even if my friends reckon the noise and interference when I ring them is ridiculous. However at the price of the 86 it is excellent value. The things I don't particularly like include the stereo system which is not great. I usually stream music from my iPhone but also have an iPod permanently connected in the car and CD's in the player too. I constantly find I am playing with the settings and it still doesn't sound fantastic. Why no controls on the steering wheel? Even my husbands RAV 4 has these and it is so inconvenient to have to find the radio dial on the dashboard to adjust the sound volume. The extra 2 seats in the back are a total waste as there is no leg room for an adult passenger to travel any distance. Not that this worries me as I am usually in the car on my own or with only one other.
Poor paint falls off
Paint falling off after 1 year (dark blue colour.) Although vehicle is washed weekly Toyota claims secondary to bird poo . Overall thin poor quality paint. Scratches really easily . Have never had this happen with other cars . Would never buy a Toyota again be warned !!! About the paint.
Paint falling off
- GT (2012-2020)
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The 86GT - It does what it was designed for.
I've had my 86GT now for over 12 months. After driving this car would never go back to driving a barge like a Ford or Holden. It does what it was designed for. To put back the fun in driving. The weight to power ratio is spot on. It was never made to be the fastest car off the line. Off course, if you want fast, just add a turbo unit for around $6000. This will increase the power by around 50% but will void your warranty. The handling is incredible for a car at this price.
Some people complain that the suspension is too stiff or that the car...
Overrated and underpowered.
Whilst I do like the look of the car, I must say, overall, I'm over it. It handles nicely but it's a bumpy, uncomfortable drive on the highway. Take off power is dismal at best but it does pick up quite well in the higher rpms (I know you can't expect much of a 4 cylinder engine but they have the technology to easily make it more powerful). The drivers seat feels like it needs to sit slightly lower. On long drives, the front of the seat starts to reduce the circulation to your legs.The sound from the stereo is terrible and when playing music vi...a bluetooth, the stereo system crashes and the only way to fix it is to turn the car off then on again. The rattles in the dash and left door trim are driving me insane! There is also a lot of road noise - the faster you go, the louder it gets. There are 4 seats but there may as well be 2. No legroom in the back at all. It's not too great on fuel, it tells me it averages 8.2 l/100km but I think it tells lies. The analog speedometer is tiny, looks ridiculous and is basically useless when you have a digital one. This car is overrated. You could easily purchase something cheaper that's: more powerful, more comfortable, roomier, quieter buuut probably not as attractive. reasonably priced, great handling lacks power, uncomfortable, noisy
Questions & Answers
I'm looking at buying a Toyota 86 GTS manual.
It has a fair few extras on it and it sounds a great.
It's only got just over 70 000 km on it and it looks like it's in really good nic.
I have done so much research on them but to sum it up the Toyota 86 GTS is not like a Hilux it hasn't been around for years and years so it's hard to try find the long-term practicality or full engine life.
When we went to test drive the car yesterday afternoon we found out that the guy who owns it has thrashed it in the time that he has had it.
My partner and I have researched them and we have read that on the racetrack those models get absolutely thrashed and they will have a lifespan of a round 150 000 to 175 000 km if looked after well and his seems to have been looked after.
Now I fell in love with this car when I took it for a test drive but because it was driven pretty hard I'm just not sure of its reliability.
Obviously Toyota have a great reputation for reliability in general again this is a relatively new car.
Just wanting to hear your opinions out there obviously it's more like a sports car so it's meant to be driven a bit more hard than your general Toyota Camry or something, but should I be worried if I continue treating it well will it last me 2 to 3 years or more?
My 1st/2nd - 3rd/2nd gate, still crunches especially when cold even tho' the service people at 1000km & 10000km say it will get better. I'm at 14000 now and the improvement is very marginal. As most of my driving is short distance, I would appreciate any advice on this matter, it is a daily occurrence and very annoying and probably not good for the vehicle.
I am not experiencing this problem. I wouldn't stand for any "it will get better" nonsense. Get them to sort it out especially as the car is still under warranty.
Hi Andrew, it sounds like you are experiencing the same issues with your 86 as I was and from what I had researched a few others. I really don't know whether these gearbox issues are isolated and if there is a long term solution. Personally, If I had kept my 86 and was determined to find a fix to this problem, I would visit a reputable performance tuning specialist that modifies and specialises in 86/BRZ's and talk to them and get their opinion. I'm not sure if you're from Sydney but Tune House in Marickville or MRT in Rhodes might be your best bet in understanding whats going on. Might be well worth a visit. Anyway good luck with it, if you decide to go in that direction I'd like to know what their diagnostics are! I'm currently looking for a RWD sports car once again and a second hand 86 in on my radar, this way i can test the box before I end up with the car. If the gate is remotely the same as my previous 86 and scalped from my list, I'll have to consider a low km, 350Z, RX8, or even a sweet shifting MX5 or S2000 regardless of age. It would be ashamed because the 86 is such a great package and ticks so many boxes.
Hi Andrew - I experienced similar transmission issues with my 86 (3rd to 4th) crunch and rattle. The Toyota dealership changed my transmission fluid and the problem is now gone. It might worth giving that a try.
Apart from that, the transmission in this car is absolutely appalling and they should probably look at recalling all of them.
To David Taylor
Say Dave do you actually own or have owned an 86GT? I can only assume that you haven't, because you wouldn't make rubbish statements about how many of them are on the second hand market. So what? I don't see the point. There are 10,000 VT commodores on the second hand market. Are you saying they are a rubbish car?
Hi , according to car sales, 279 VT and VT 2 commodores are for sale on the market. Not a bad figure as it's less than the combined Subaru BRZ , 259 cars for sale and Toyota 86 , 392 cars for sale ....and way more commodore VT s were manufactured and sold than that car.
Now how did you arrive at 10 000?
So it seems, not surprisingly, it's got worse than when I wrote the the post. I've driven one, Toyota 86, and I own an Audi TT.
Product Review has asked me to respond to this question. My answer to the question of whether a car is rubbish according to how many used examples are on the used car market is that I don't necessarily believe that this is an indicator of a car's quality. I do believe however that some people who buy the GT86 "think" they want to own a sports car but what they really want is a sports looking car that rides rides, drives, and behaves like a good modern day refined passenger/luxury car. Eg low end torque, quiet cabin, insulation from external noise, buttery compliance. The GT86 is not that car, it is however a raw competent sports car meaning the main objective is chassis balance and dynamics, "feel" (communication to the driver of what is happening under the tires) and to certain degree performance. The GT86 was designed to be used hard meaning the engine needs to be wound right up near the red line and if you have never driven a car or wish to drive a car "hard" (above 8/10ths)then it's probably going to make you feel a little disappointed. Toyota/Subaru makes no apologies in making a car like this and fair enough. Even though it will do all the normal car duties its design brief is VERY specific to hard corner carving and wringing the engine out and needs to be experienced on a closed circuit to be properly appreciated, which most people won't or rarely do. If you want more of an all rounder look elsewhere this is a proper old school sports car. If you know exactly what your getting with the GT86 and really want to drive a car at 10/10th at some point YOU WILL LOVE IT ;)
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