Fowlers Vacola Simply Natural Preserving Kit Questions & Answers
Hi all just wondering if mason jars with seals and screw top lids can be used in the same method as the Fowlers vacola jars
Hi all it’s been years since I have used my preserving kit and I don’t recall if it should have a rack in the bottom or do they just sit on the square plate at the bottom any help or pics would be greatly appreciate
Can the jars be touching each other and the side of the Professional preserving kit? Or do I need to space them? I am spacing them at the moment. Thanks Christine
Yes, I also space them.
I have found that using the bigger preserver the bottles tended to move a bit and ended up touching each other at the end of the process, so I packed them in so that they were touching each other, but not packed too tightly. It worked fine. I also use the smaller unit and 8 bottles fit snugly, but not packed too tightly (but will be touching each other). The thing is NOT to let the unit boil so hard that the bottles are walloping against each other.
Question 1: I have the Simple Natural/Year Rounder unit. When I leave the lid on, the unit boils before the hour is finished. When I leave the lid off, no problem. The instructions do not say whether to leave the lid on or off for this unit. Leave it off?
Question 2: I've just done figs in the above unit. I cut them into quarters as they pack better in the jars. The jars were the recommended size (no. 20). I used new rings. The jars were filled to the correct level with water (and alcohol, an excellent way to use up nearly empty bottles of green ginger wine or port or weird liqueurs that you are given as gifts). The clips are well used but still work. The clips were removed after the recommended time, and the lids can lift the jars with no issues. This is just so you know the bottling was done correctly. My concern is that the figs have floated to the top of the jar and some are above the liquid level. I've been sternly telling them to float back down, but they won't. Not even if I put the bottles upside down, they just float that way too. Won't this dry out the figs at the top as they are not in any liquid? Is there a solution?
Thanking you. Helen Mc
Hi. I'm no expert and I recommend you join the "Rebel Preserving Australia" Group and tell Melinda I sent you. You will get your answers there. A common problem with the Simple Natural unit is that it boiles before the hour is finished. It always did that for me. (I recently sold it).
I always shut it off at fifty minutes, and like you, I was a tad concerned whether it was done correctly but did seem to be.
My experience with product that floats above the water is that if you scraped the exposed bit off everything else below the line is fine. But, again, ask Melinda and crew. Your figs sound potetially great.
Hi Helen, I too do what I call 'dessert figs' - and use up all those odd bits of booze in my booze store. I cut my figs in half and roast them in the oven with said alcohol and sugar and a bit of water to make a good syrup. I then bottle them. I know that is double cooking, but we like the taste! (It also cooks of the alcohol which may make the fruit float.) I find that the figs will usually float in the bottles at first, then they sink after a week or so. Try turning the bottles upside down for a week or so, then turning them right side up. Sometimes there is a bit of trapped air in the fruit which will make it float and this usually dissipates with time.
I made mulled wine last Christmas (a LOT of mulled wine...), and I can tell you that this makes the best dessert figs ever! (when you run out of other booze bits). Also, Limoncello and honey are a superb combination. (Limoncello is quite easy to make.)
1. With the unit, leave the lid on and if it is boiling too hard before the hour is up, turn it off but leave the bottles in the unit with the lid on for the rest of the hour. Once the hour is up, remove the bottles, allow them to cool then test the lids.
I have been using the Fowlers preserving system for about 30 years. I love the Simple Natural unit.
Thank you Sue and Robyn. It's good to hear from other people. I'll try your suggestions. Limoncello and honey does sound good, I've got some of that too! Try whole cherries in port, delicious!
When I'm doing hot filled jars e.g beetroot do I wait until the jars are cool then process?
Mine are almost always cold/warm to start with. I always use fowlers/ball jars which are stronger than jam jars. There are some groups out there with lots of info. external link This is one of many informative pages.
And this is a good beetroot recipe: external link
Thanks, I always use Fowlers jars and always use a hot vinegar mix, into hot jars and usually boil them to process but have been given an all year round preserver which is new to me so was wondering if I bottle as per usual with lids and clips, let cool and then process for the 60 mins?
How do I top up my jars of processed plums as they have large air space at top, plums are raised from bottom so look as if they have sealed well, should I simply take tops off, add extra syrup then reprocess? For how long and at what temperature please?
Turn the jars upside down and store for a while. When the plums are no longer floating, check the jars to see if there is too much air in the top, then decide if you want to re-do them. The jars should have a little space at the top, as they can't seal properly unless there is some air in there. If you decide to re-process, you need to do them for the exact same time you did them the first time (consult your manual). The time and temp will depend on what preserving kit you own.
Hi we have a new professional preserving model We noticed that when the 1hour 15 minute was up the unit was still boiling, after removing the bottles of peaches we noticed that the controller was showing past presv, could you advise would the peaches still be suitable to eat? Thanks for any assistance Regards Bruce
Hi Bruce, your peaches should be fine to eat - the preserving unit should have sealed the bottles in that time. You can check the lids with a gentle pull (when the bottles are cool). Have no idea what 'past prev' is on your controller - mine doesn't have that as it is from the 1970s! In that time I have processed occasional batches for longer than required and have never had a bad batch. (All my family are still alive and have never been sick from my preserves!)
Hi, I received my xmas gift of this kit, I am ready to do my first preserve, I go to plug the cord in and it only seems to go in up to half way, ? it moves left ato right up and down doesn't seem to be stable. Should the cord go in to its Hilt? I'm really disappointed and scared to turn on, is this normal, what can I do
Hi Helen, The cord is probably safe but not being an electrician, I can't say for certain what's happening with yours in particular. It does feel like it isn't going all the way in, and the cord is definitely the most disappointing component.
It's the cheapest model they make and is a good starting point but check it to see if it has shut off frequently and check around ten minutes before the scheduled finish time that it isn't boiling.
Historically, the cord is safe.
There is a canning group called Rebel Preserving Australia where you can have pleasant conversations about canning. Some groups get pretty feisty but that is a good facebook group. It's not my group, but I am a member.
Thank you, My son came over and was able to get the cord in further so all is good !
Just wondering why my jars are leaking water into them. I made apple sauce, while it was hot I put it into hot jars and then into The boiling water bath. Some Appel came out as there was little bits in the water when I took the jars out. Am I just overfilling them? they did seal, are they safe to eat? And Can I use this method or do I need to start with cold water?
You start with cold, water, and you are overfilling the container, read your manual as it will explain how to do it correctly
Have a stainless steel professional preserving unit how long should it take to get to the 92 degree and do I start timing from that stage the first batch of fruit where over cooked
Hi Nona, I don't know the answers to those questions but there is a lovely group (I am a member) called "Rebel Preserving Australia". There, there are plenty of different units and methods used and you can ask your questions. Tell Melinda, Pearly and Helen (the admins) that I sent you and they will waive all dues. (Just kidding. it's free. ) :-)
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how many no 31 bottles can I fit in my stainless steel automatic preserver, and does the Tim start when the temperaturereaches 92 c
For safety reasons I always started the time from when I heard the unit start to boil. How many jars? Just put them in until the unit is full but the jars aren't touching each other. Do a dry run to see how many will fit.
Hi, I just used our natural preserver for the first time today. When it just starts to bubble with the odd/few bubbles is this considered boiling or is a rapid boil the point where you should turn it off? Also what temp is it aiming for as I could work it out that way. It got up to about 98 at the end of our pickled vegetables. Will they be okay? Thanks
Hi Fran, according to this page, you don't have to monitor the temp. That being said, it can't boil and they say 60 minutes. I find by 60 minutes it is boiling. You can hear it boil. I have a look at 45 minutes and have found that every time I have used it my formula of looking at 5 minutes to make sure it heated up in the first place (because my unit is finicky) then at 45 mins works for me. Others also stop at 45 mins. external link
Now, is your preserver the same age as mine or brand new? did they fix some imperfections? If so, maybe at 1 hour it still isn't boiling. I don't know about that. Thanks for reaching out. Do you belong to any preserving groups? I recommend external link They are a friendly group.
Thanks Sue, It is a new model and it is probably around 50 minutes. I will use your formula I think. Thanks for the preserving group tip as well!
Hi, can I preserve Satsuma plums with the stone in? Margaret.
I can't answer that, but I see googling gives some good results. there are also preserving groups that could help you. I've left all the groups so I don't get into all that "drama" but found some really nice friends. I hope you are as lucky too.
Hi can I preserve Satsuma plums with their stones in? Margaret.
Yes. I do all our small peaches with their stones in and have done plums with their stones in. Keep in mind that plums don't really hold their shape like other stone fruit, but that doesn't change their taste! (But you won't win any prizes for presentation...)
Thank you Robyn
I have been using the Fowlers Vacola simple preserving kit and while it does the job it leaks a lot of water from under the lid (when it is boiling) which spills out around the outside of the container leaving a lot of water on the bench. It seems dangerous to me as it leaks out past the electrical inlet. will ring FV to see if this is correct or if it should have some sort of seal or way of restricting this water
I think you may be filling it too full. Be sure to only fill it to just at that bump with the metal strip. And, it's not supposed to boil. Max 5 mins. you can reach me directly at external link if you like. I am happy that you evidentally can turn yours off and on reliably. I cannot. But, I can get it to work.
Thanks Sue. We are filling to the recommended level just below the metal strip ie just covering glass jars that came with the kit as per instructions. We do not have an on off switch apart from the power point. It appears that it is boiling too quickly so will follow instructions and switch off once it teaches boiling. Thanks for your help
I am using the simple preserving kit for the first time today. It has been turned on for an hour and the water temperature is only 50 degrees Celsius. After 1hr and 20 minutes the temperature is at 170 Celcius should I start my 1 hr timer from now
Hi Raelene, how do you know what the temperature is? Mine does not have a temperature indicator. You have to ensure the water covers the little metal thermostat which is where the top handle indents are (on the inside).
Once you have filled your unit up with jars and filled with cold water to the top of the indented handles, your unit is ready to be switched on and the timer set for 1 hour. Your unit should have come to the boil within this time. If your unit has failed to do so then I would recommend contacting Fowlers for a replacement unit.
I am using mine for the plum pudding it has now boiled will the plum pudding be safe to eat?
My cherries came out almost bleached looking, could it be sugar content in syrup? Or?
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