Why did you bother!
Given van version by insurer after accident,thanks ! Firstly it is like driving a dustcart it is much too "muscular" ie Chelsea tractor mould, around town is a constant nightmare of threading the needle in traffic. Next is the lack of engineering finesse, it bumps steers like no tomorrow, meaning any corner above 25 mph you may be 4" over frome entry combined with first problem......! Then usability it fails massively, you think you have a decent load space butt the doors conspire against you and there is a real hook in the profile of the door frame which beat the back of my head into submission to the point of entertaining in a genuflecting manner. Then there is the brakes,touch your foot against the pedal,nothing,drop a feather on your foot Emergency stop!! I've just been rear ended and they give me this! Again poor quality nothing to do with setup, it means feathering the brakes on approach to hazards to prevent rear car ingress .Plus points, I'm returning it when my VW gets better, thankfully I didn't have to pay to find this out!
Renault Kangoo - an impressive small van.
The Renault Kangoo - a joyfully French take on a small commercial vehicle.
The Kangoo is a likeable, economical and car-like van with character.
There is a range of options and accessories available to tailor the design as you wish.
At home in urban areas, the Kangoo is also excellent on highway trips.
Excellent choice of work vehicle
My perfect work van,120K trouble free. Comfortable/Quite ride for long rural to short city driving. Great access to your cargo or tools of trade. Useful clearance for underground car parking even with roof racks fitted. Aftermarket rear air suspension easily fitted at low cost. Running expenses low stick to original Continental tyres as good for 50k +. Will definitely trade in for same again.
P.S. Speed limiter ideally suited for inner city 40K zones
Terrible experience and big mistake on buying this van
Our company decided to purchase this Van last 20th Nov 2015 and Thought that the market price of this van was great but NO!!! Worse mistake on purchasing this one.
Our Renaul Kangoo Van started to have problem with the CLUTCH.
Our truck has only done 28000 km and the clutch on pick up has not been as good as the others and been to the fact that it was only small millage and only been driven around Melbourne CBD.
We are so disappointed with the quality of this Van and took it for SEVICE believing it will be UNDER WARRANTY!!
But to our dismay this Sales Manager at Essendon wanting us to pay and bill it for us and refuse to fix under warranty!
All of our trucks HINO, 2 x FUSO, HYUNDAI has never had a clutch problem and well looked after and been serviced on time.
Millage has only reached 28000km and this RENAULT was a big joke and let down to our business
Please do not buy from this manufacturer and look somewhere else with a good service warranty and can really look after not only the Truck/Van/Car but their customer too!!!! Customer Service are awful and don’t know how to look after their clients and very unprofessional.
Renault are your worst night mare
The cooling system as we generally know it consists of a engine core circuit, a radiator circuit and a heater circuit.
Usually the heater circuit is an extension of the radiator circuit, and usually you can get warm air into the cabin after engine operating temperature is reached and the thermostate opens.
(Some Renaults have heater elements inside the heater circuit in order to deliver already warm air to the cabin for comfort and demister before opeeatin temp. is reached.
The 2016 Kangoo Maxi 1.5 diesel does not seem to have those heater elements.
However it already deliveres warm air to the cabin, when you switch the heater fan on ,before the thermostate opens at 84 celcius.
In this car the heater circuit seems to be independent from the thermostate.
The pipe of the heatercircuit comes from the block, goes to the heaterbox (which therefore always has the temp of the engine), from the heaterbox the pipe goes to the thermostate on the BLOCK SIDE.
The sideeffect of this is that the coolant temp / engine temp.
drops as far down as 55 Celcius (in the colder months) when you switch the heater fan on to full blast, and there is not much load on the car, like cruising on flat highway or downhill or idling.
Going up a long hill the temp. Will go up again,
eventually reaching thermostate opening temp.
Being on level ground again, the tenp. goes far down again.
Switching the heater off ..eveything goes back to normal... thermostate holds operating temp between 84 and about 80 Celcius regardless of load on engine.
So, we are looking at a total temp. range of 30 Celcius.
Renault is reluctant to comprehensively explain to me how the ECU and other car control mechanism can make the engine run to specification and efficiently over that 30 Celcius range.
All what they tell me : the engines are temprature efficient...
( but first the mastermechanic diagnosed a open stuck thermostate.....
And had told them ,that there are otherr Renault models doing the same.
It took them 4 weeks to get a new thermostate from Frace....and of course it did not change anything.
After that they came up with : its designed like this....)
And it is, but is it a design fault...?
Has anyone knowledge how exactly this cooling system works ,and do I need to worry about wear on parts / engine oel , exhaust particel filter, consumption ,when car is running so low on temperature. ( as it will when I live in Tassi ).
Any input would help.
March 21st 2018 Update: Service
My 2016 Ranault Kangoo Maxi has an ABS malfunction after 27000 km.
Also tracktion controll and ESC and Hill Start is out...
Some littele stones got into the rear wheel speed sensor set up and damaged the sensors...
This car has no flaps behind the front wheels and only little deflectors on the rear suspension... obviously not effective.
Repair is going to be done under warranty. ...however, those Speedsensors, mostlikely being the same in other Renault Imports are not on shelf in Australia, need to come from France.
Renaults Spare part policy is just ridiculous.
March 25th 2018 Update: Service
My 2016 Renault Kangoo is a Maxi 1.5 Turbo Diesel Manual, 6 speed manual.
I am happy about road performance, handling in particular. I have an actual fuel consumption of 6 L , with about 300kg above tara weight in the car, driving without aircon in the High Country...I consider this as good...Average in the Lowlands and more open road : about 5.6 L/ 100 km.
I am not happy with the spare part situation.
A wrongly open stuck diagnosed Thermostate had to come from France.
Now after about 28000 km ( about 1 to 5 % on 2WD gravel roads.) the rear wheel speed sensors are damaged by little stones getting into the assembly. Without those sensors there is no ABS, ESC, Hill holder..
Since the diagnosis, 3 weeks have past without an information about when it will be fixed.
My recommendation : if you are in the market for a new car... do not only check Specs and gadgets.... get as much info as possible about known problems with a particular car , check Service references and in particular spare part policies of the company...
Also check response of the main customer service of that manufacturer.
Guenther ( Horst )
Not highly recommended
Nice car to drive but not a driver friendly inside, the handbrake is an obstacle under the gearbox stick, The door side pocket unusable while driving except for a drink bottle. I find it very noisy even when in neutral as if it's a Diff or bearing noise. for a small van I took it back to the dealer workshop and they blamed the type of Tyres. although all over the van is ok I will NOT buy a Kangoo ever again I will go back to the Citroen Berlingo which I drove for 10 years without any issue. I forgot the worst Bluetooth ever, every one I talk to say they can't hear me and ask if I can get off it. It's going back to the dealer workshop for hopefully repair. The navigation system I put is too far to reach, I need to undo my seatbelt to change direction.
Maxi Crew is excellent
This is the perfect mini van for my business needs as sometimes I carry things and other times people. The manual is better as you have more control. I love this car. It has all the modern comforts but not the hassle of a big van. I can park in shopping centres.......van owners you know what I mean.
Great little van.
Recently traded in my 2014 Renault Traffic van for a 2016 kangoo maxi van.Fantastic around city compared to a bigger van.Just like driving a go cart.I work as a courier around Sydney and the more manoeuverable(spelling?) kangoo is great.Very car like in its handling.Ive only had it for around a mth but its good.It does whats its meant to do I suppose.Can fit a pallet in the rear doors.Fairly cheap to run,but its not giving me the same klms out of a tank that I got from the much bigger trafic,considering the trafic had a 2ltr engine and was auto.This van is a 1.5ltr and manual.At the moment I'm getting about 900klms out of a tank.The trafic gave me around 1150..Maybe after its first service it might be better so I'm told.Maybe its tuned to run a little on the rich side until its run in.? But I'm fairly happy with it.The only things I could fault with it are probably only little annoying things like the drivers seat belt latch.With the seat extended to its max height,i smack my knuckles on the console nearly every time I push the seat belt back in because the stalk isn't long enough with the seat in high position.Maybe I have big feet but I'm constantly crashing feet when braking or using the clutch.The pedels I feel are just a fraction too close together.The only other thing I would say is I miss having the left side window in the sliding door in the back.Sometimes its only guess work when reversing or turning out of some streets.I could get one fitted but not sure what that would cost but will see how I go with it.I got both my vans from Brian Hilton Renault in Gosford and both times I got a great deal and certainly they bent over backwards to get things done for me. I suggest if your up that way and are looking for a Renault,track down Lindsay Brown in the new car showroom.If anyone can get you into a new car he can.Nothing is too much trouble..
Too complex to maintain
Any Renault with a al4or dpo transmission, this unit suffers from debris from the friction clutches with the steel spacers pumping the debris around the unit causing damage to valve body/solinoids/seals/bearings/bushings /torque converter, the fluid for these units HAS TO BE FULLY SYNTHETIC, not dextron 2 or 3 or semi synthetic, these units run hot and have poor cooling and I'm in the UK, the unit has a condition sensor that measures heat/viscosity and will flag the computer to limp mode,lock out if the fluid gets thin, another fault probably caused by debris is the converter lock up not locking up between shifting this causes the engine rev up because the converter can't lock the drive to to the diff/wheels and it thuds in it can flag limp/lockout,
Basically this unit has been designed to make millions for Renault dealerships, even if you replace the emv valves/solinoids you need to upgrade the software, if you think you can reset the gearbox computer with an after market diagnostic unit think again because the Renault clip software is only used by transmission shops and Renault,
There is a counter in the computer that has to reset after fluid is added, our Renault modus does not have a drain plug but did manage to get 2 ltrs out via the condition sensor at the bottom of the box, I did not have the engine running at the time but will try that one later .
Right diggers that's my take on the Renault automatic al4 /dpo as fitted a lot of Renaults
Hope it helps !
Not for tall drivers.
I've done 12,000km on my Kangoo PHII petrol, so far so good.
Clock's accurate, plenty of torque, no problem hauling a load of tools, roof rack, will easily do 100km/h even with a 600kg enclosed trailer in tow.
Manual gearbox shifts very well, handles well on the street, rides great (in fact best riding car I've ever owned!), fairly quite on the open road.
Best tank to date of 6.0l/100km in all city use, around 8 with the trailer in the city.
Problems? I'm 6'0" tall and really can't drive the thing for more than an hour, If I do I can barely walk when I get out. The seat height adjuster is useless because it also moves the seat forward, and the seat is already all the way back on it's runners. At a guess, I'd suggest a long test drive if you're any taller than 5'6".
Electric steering is too light, brakes are also too light and inconsistent (sometimes just feathering the pedal will stand the van on it's nose).
MP3 stereo doesn't like some files (you try finding the possibly one offending file among 8GB or more).
Sliding doors 'rock' when closed - not a problem so far - but you wouldn't get that with a VW.
Stupid central locking design derived from passenger cars. Again see VW on how to do it for a working vehicle.
Above all, don't pay for the 'factory fit' floor mats (or any other 'dealer' option). My dealer bought some ribbed rubber mat from Bunnings ($10/metre - I checked) and cut them with a box cutter. Only charged me $250 for them.
As such, I won't be going to Renault for anything other than warranty work. I'm worried they might fill my engine with vegetable oil and use coffee filters for the oil filter.
I didn't buy a Caddy as my Transporter has had/ still needs $32K worth of work at 40K km. No car is perfect but VW AU are the biggest jokers.
I used the van for work from new to 30,000km. By 5000km one of the drive shaft mounts had come loose/worn out and I was told not to drive it anymore (by Renault) until a replacement had been sourced from France. This took 3 weeks. From new the dash would occasionally not work, this was replaced twice. The clock has never kept accurate time, it would lose 5 minutes every two weeks. Renault had 4 attempts at fixing this with no result. I got tired of taking it in so I gave up. How hard is it to make a clock show reasonable accurate time? my microwave has been doing it for years...
The gearbox (automatic). yuck...the ratios were obviously used because they had them laying around, not because they were suited to the engine/vehicle.
When it changes from 1st to 2nd, you could feel it slipping for the first 3 or 4 seconds before it would finally engage the gear correctly, this was very annoying. It would constantly try to go into 4th gear, to the point where it would sound like it was pinging when moving slowly. The transmission has a 'manual' mode, I'm unsure of the point of this as it would force up/down changes anyway, nor would it let you select a gear it thought was wrong, which meant any form of engine braking could not be done.
The engine (petrol) has very little torque, combined with the gearbox design it was always out of breath, or way below its peak torque, which seemed to be 4500-5000rpm.
I had the van full of tools and ladders on the roof. This meant it was basically limited to 100kmh unless going down hill. Forget trying to overtake slower cars, it cannot be done. The road noise is very loud while on the highway, making the handsfree pretty useless. It would average 13L/100km, meaning it had to be filled up...a lot!
Renault service is terrible. It first service I was told was so cheap ($350), was because 'we didn't do anything'.
Another fun thing I found was that if you have a flat tyre, the design of the jack handle hits the ground while it is at it lowest point. Luckily I was on gravel and could dig a hole to allow it to turn and wind the jack up.
The only good point I can think of is it handled quite well.
I was a good day when I swapped it for a slightly older Renault Trafic, in the short time I have driven the Trafic, it appears to be built for a purpose, not a price tag.
A VW caddy is more expensive simply because it is a far far far superior van. I would never personally buy any Renault after having the Kangoo
A Little Different But A Nice Experience
It is easy to get to like this vehicle, once you find the car jack that is "hidden" inside the spare wheel and the handle for the jack under the bonnet. It is also full of screws and bolts that have a star head with six points, not a phillips head but a torx head. The model of van I am talking about has the two vertical doors at the rear, one wide, one narrow. Incidentally the doors can be detached from their swing limiters so they can fold right back and improve the view for doing reversing tricks, like floating a boat. I am enjoying the good car-like ride on my new Bridgestone CAT radials. I have bought the car new, so part of the confidence I have is about the car being under warranty. All of the good things that are said about this vehicle are fairly true,however,it is only a two seater and it is unclear if the third seat conversion in the cargo bay is available for australian vehicles but for me it is the perfect car.
I have the 2008 1.5 diesel version and I like it very much. Important to me is:The air conditioner provides a lot of cool air without sapping strength from the engine.The passenger seat folds down flat so I can easily move belongings to the next rented apartment.The engine is not designed for spinning the wheels at the traffic lights but it will easily pull a 15ft dingy up a boat ramp. The sliding door at the drivers side (rear) is great for loading groceries. It is cheap to run.
The car is a little expensive. There were some after sales warranty issues like, It needed some anti rattle tape in the cargo bay panels,the plastic covering on the ignition key was defective and some metric star head screws had to be imported to fix the sunvisor. When driving the vehicle the blinker and wiper controls are opposite to other vehicles and the passenger side rear door needs a glass window to fix a blind spot.
Renault Kangoo Lemon
Beware: do not buy this car. I purchased a 2009 model and I used it in my cleaning business. It's done only 40,000 km but in that time I have changed a cylinder, starter motor, the entire air con system and all out of warranty. Roughly $6K of work. Now this week I am told the computer is broken which is another $2-3K. I bought it because it was the only auto van in market and was good price. Worse mistake ever and to rub salt into the wound Renault Australia that is run under Nissan could not give a toss about my concerns. French are good at wine, cheese and running away from wars. Cars. No. Disgrace.
Cyclinder broken. Starter motor. Air con system.
Jamie the bee
Cheapest option in class
Let's put this in to perspective, if you need a small automatic van, you really only have 2 real options, that being the VW Caddy or the Renault Kangoo. When I compared similar aged/ Km's / spec the Kangoo was considerable cheaper. We purchased a 2008 Kangoo with 40,000km and a full Renault service history. The van has many different drivers and needed to be full-proof, which it has been. Three years latter the car has 80,000km and a few mechanical issues. I made the mistake of servicing the vehicle through a non Renault dealer, thinking I was saving money. Instead small mechanical issues became bigger and when I finally went to the experts in Kangoos, Renault, they fixed the problems straight away and proactively fixed other small probs. Ok it cost over a thousand dollars to fix the engine mounts, air con pulley, service and other alignments, but now lesson learnt to service regularly through a Renault dealer. I wonder how many others have gone down the same path??? As a final note I have placed an order for a brand new Kangoo, with a 5 year warranty. I could tailer the order to exactly what I wanted and about 10 k cheaper then the VW Caddy!
Best value in class. Easy to drive
Needs to be well looked after at a Renault dealer
Great van, just lacking some more seats
I've owned a Kangoo since new, picking it up on April Fools Day, 2006. Since then, the van's reliability has been nothing short of remarkable: apart from the coil packs. Every single one factory installed has failed, and within 3 years. The replacements haven't missed a beat. It's also a pity there has never been additional seating offered, as can be found in Europe.
As a car, it drives better than any other small van, apart from VW Caddys. Blows my old Combo out of the water. I can fit anything I want into it, the dog has a nice space to sit in, and the ride is comfortable enough to drive to Queensland and back with ease. (done this 4 times) Even the wife enjoys sitting in it!
Cheap to run, reliable as all get out.
Coil packs failed, servicing can be expensive...
Absolute load of rubbish
Rides as rough as guts Very noisy The automatic transmission is very poor with falling back to second gear at free way speeds engine light comes on and you have to shut the engine down and restart Replaced gearbox now its worse Had a Combo before this it wasn't great but at 200k km it drove better and more quietly than the Kangoo Eurotrash
Eurotrash enough said
unreliable, costly, total regret buying this car
2006 Kangoo Renault - bought brand new. I have replaced the alternator twice, fuel pump, starter motor and now the transmission. Also the paint is fading badly particulary on the roof and bonnet. It is very unreliable. Parts are difficult to source in Australia. No after sales service!!!!!!!! A nightmare to own
originally purchased as it was converted for a wheelchair car
Major mechanical problems.
compact practical and comfortable. Great work horse. Zippy engine and all the creature comforts of most passenger cars. More pricey than Combo but combo has no features, cheaper than Caddy and more eye catching. Great billboard for any business
car like drive, dual side loading dorrs 2 airbags ABS a/c as standard
diesel option would be a winner. 1.5 Dci is top unit