Adventure Kings Big Daddy Deluxe Double Swag
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Great in dry weather. Seasoned it 3 times before use, yet it leaked like crazy. Mattress was drenched, clothes were drenched, sleeping bag was drenched! I would not recommend this product. I don’t expect it to be an amazing product at its cheap price, but the minimum I expect is it to keep me dry. I have previously used oztrail swags which have never had issues with leaking. I will be buying one of them instead.
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Not happy, have purchased 3 of these swags and seasoned them for 3 days prior to using them and am now my family especially my 8 year have to now spend the night in wet swags with wet mattresses and probably wet sleeping bags by the morning, it's running down between the mesh and the supposed waterproof flap that zips over the top, down through the zip and onto the floor and into the matress Show details
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Ok in fine weather but… we got Soaking wet in some rain and we are very unhappy - who makes a swag that gets drenched inside? Hate to be in a real downpour! I Woke up in a pool of water - mattress absolutely drenched and the base full of water . Buy something else that is waterproof, or that at least after seasoning is waterproof!!. Show details
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Extremely happy after 5-6 years – I have owned this swag now for about 5-6 years and have nothing but praise for it. The build quality is amazing and the room is incredible. You do get some side sag but I just add 2 bungee cords per end and run them from half way down poles and anchor to the window flap peg and it pulls them tight. Otherwise pool noodle inside also works wonders.… Read more · 1
It’s rained probably 3/4 of the time I have used this and I have never got wet. When I water proofed mine I left it outside in winter for a good week and a half so it got soaked and dried about 5 times at least. So it would have really pulled canvas tight around the seams. I highly recommend doing this and if it’s not raining put a sprinkler on and really soak it and then let dry and do this for multiple days you will benefit big time. I have never had to use a can spray sealer on mine ever. For what i paid delivered this thing cannot be beaten.
I've fixed mine – Ok I seasoned mine but found water coming in and not sure how. Basically, use Shelley's all clear Co Polymer water sealant. One your finger put some in all corners at bottom to top up the seem inside the swag. On the finger run it along the join between the plastic and canvas seal on the inside of the swag below the zip and and the flap below the… Read more · 1
zip where the plastic is joined. I also rubbed some in both mid sections of vertical stitching below the zipper. I've tested it in heavy rain and now no water at all. By running sealant along the inside you don't expose the sealant to the sun plus the swag looks fine on the outside. NOTE...this is the small metal tube version that you don't require a gun for :) P.S I'm under the understanding Co Polymer is more durable and flexible than Silicone.
Happy with this set up to easy – So easy to set up an compact to suite . Have use this in some wet places on the west coast of New Zealand an it’s held it’s own. I havent use this in a two person situation but ample room for one with all the extras. Well ventilated, strong material comes with a mattress, only problem is the mattress becomes a problem when packing up. Apart from that highly recommended. Show reply
Love this swag – My partner and I have brought this swag out on a few camping trips now and get a great night sleep every time on the 70mm matress. Comfortable and cozy, May take a bit of practice getting it back it the bag but not that big of a deal for me definitely recommend it , good price for what you get Show reply
Very wet big daddy kings swag – Great swag in the dry as soon as it gets wet even after seasoning our bedding was soaked, we found there are design faults with the entire swag that amplify the problems when it showers or rains especially around the seems between Canvas and floor. Show details
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Positive reviews
All about the pre seasoning prep – I read all the reviews on here, then went on you tube for seasoning a swag. firstly open the swag up, then soak it in a bath of water over night, In morning put out side and errect slightly sloppy until completely dry, mopped out floor with towel. Nice and dry, I then sprayed CRC Aqua Armour around ever stitched seam as I wasn't taking any… Read more · 1
chances. Then left to dry. We have had thunder storms and torrential rain pounding the swag. Not a leak. For the price this is a good swag and yes you may say should come out the box perfect, well pay another $400, or season it well and can of Aqua.
Great for the price! – I have had this swag for ages. I seasoned it about 5-6 times during sunny weather , and apart from one or two drop of water during a torrential storm, it has been excellent. It is built to a price. The 'water /condensation' on the inside that folk experience is most likely from us, as we breathe out. I have a camper trailer with canvas , and have… Read more · 1
condensation with that also ( aussie made) Ensure the seams are sealed, and there should not be a problem. Excellent value for money!
Superb swag , unsure why so much hate – I have owned my Big Daddy Deluxe swag for just over 3 years now and had roughly 30 very comfortable nights in it. Admittedly the swag did leak on its first rainy day out , but I put that down to insufficient seasoning on my part. I ensured I gave the swag a proper soaking on the next warm day , using a sponge aswell as the hose to penetrate the… Read more · 1
canvas. I then repeated this procedure another 3 times , allowing it to dry inbetween soakings. I feel this swag has been given an unnecessary bad rap due to this often overlooked and underestimated process. Yes the previous comments said “I hosed it down like 5 times…..” You have to understand there will be a slight chemical residue on any product you buy from a factory , which will slightly inhibit a proper soaking of the canvas. The fabric needs to expand in order to fill the tiny pinholes created during the sewing process. Since doing this , I never had any other issues with water entering the swag or pooling. That’s with plenty of nights spent on the west coast of New Zealand in battering rain!
Anyway…..
It’s a great quality swag for the price point, made with great materials that have yet to fail on me. I stand by this and hope to see further positive reviews from customers of this product as I know there are plenty of happy campers out there !
All the best
Kyle
Negative reviews
Accurate facts. Factors of product with this many reports of leakage can't be good. Will look for other brand. Why do companies spend so much money on advertising then make a product which apparently has the same fault so often. Good money after bad Show details
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Big Leaky Deluxe! Anyone Got a Towel? – Bought the Big Daddy Deluxe with Deluxe Canvas Bag approximately 12 months ago. Bought a Deluxe Single a few months later for short weekend trips. BDD leaked after seasoning and leaked just as bad my first trip. Poured in were the pvc bucket meets the canvas. Tried seasoning again, same thing in the back yard under a hose. Dried it out and… Read more
chucked it in the shed.
No problems with the DS however, seasoned up fine.....saw a vid that you've changed the seams guys. Stitching on the BDD is a folded seam and the DS is overlap seam. Just dug the BDD out two weeks ago and pumped gorilla grip contact adhesive into the seams, straps and let it dry for 24hrs. No more leaking!?
I've got a heap of your stuff and have been so happy, battery, dcdc charger, fridge slide, 12volt oven etc. Don't want any sort of refund, just don't start skimping on quality out of the blue aye.
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Significant quality drop – Adventure Kings have sold their soul and have gone down the path of luring people in with a great product for years then making a cheap replacement. I have an old big daddy that has been amazing, but bought a new one a few days ago and the quality of canvas and mattress has dropped significantly. The canvas is thinner, and feels a little more… Read more
plastic. The mattress is less dense and you bottom out quickly. The canvas bag is also suffering the same fate and the zip is horrendous. If you are looking to purchase one of these....have a look around first, as I think you may now be disappointed
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Recent reviews
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These swags are coming out with the wrong stitching. Buyer beware – I have recently bought 4 Kings swags for Xmas for the family. 3 single deluxe Swags and a big daddy deluxe Swag. Two of the singles seem well waterproof after seasoning. These have a straight overlapping stitch connecting the canvas to the PVC flooring and this allows water to run off to the ground.The double and other single have completely… Read more
different stitching connecting the PVC. It's and inward stitch which does not waterproof at all after seasoning as water sits on the seam and leaks through the stitching which absolutely soaks the inside of the swag. What is frustrating is all advertising Online, the packaging and the showroom floor shows the correct type of stitch which is great and does waterproof. My question is how in a single order of 4 swags can you have two different single swag designs and completely different stitching, 1 which is faulty and leaks and the other which is built better and has the correct stitching?
I have a mate which has owned a Big Daddy deluxe for years and the correct seam stitching as advertised. (1st 2 Pics shown.) This is the same stitching on 2 of the waterproof singles I purchased. Which gave me the confidence to buy a couple and I get 2 faulty and wrong stitch type which leaks. (Not advertised) 3rd and 4th pics is my new double swag with the incorrect stitching. Currently going through the claims process to rectify my situation. Wish me luck.
Update: 14 January I have had my claims rectified so I will give an extra star for service (1 star - 2 star) My single now matches the better batch of swags. The double was replaced but still not to the design online. Had to still seam grip the hell out of it to seal but is now waterproof.
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Buy something else – Leaks, got a wet mattress and bedding. The eye holes for the top pole are tearing out the canvas. Wouldn’t recommend this product, wish i saw these reviews before purchasing it. Show details
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KINGS: Must be the WORST swags on the market – Absolutely the WORST company (to deal with) selling the most INFERIOR product. We bought two swags - both leaked on their first camp - after thorough seasoning. The company (4WD Supacentre) refused a refund or a repair - I've never encountered customer service as bad as this anywhere in my 60 plus years - the "change of mind" policy is a rort.… Read more
Consumers dealing with this company are NOT PROTECTED - it seems they can get away with ripping people off with their very dodgy consumer practices. We never 'changed our minds' - we wanted swags - just not the kind that leaked and wet our mattresses when it rained the first time we used them. Feeling cheated by these swindlers at 4WD Supercentre and now fired up to warn as many other unsuspecting people who love camping to BEWARE of companies like this who DO NOT CARE enough to be honest traders. DISGUSTED by the arrogance of this company. DISAPPOINTED we wasted money on what is nothing more than rubbish to us now - Kings have our money and the swags - not worth our while to go and pick them up - they are good for nothing.
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It's like sleeping in a bathtub. :( – First swag leaked badly, replacement swag leaked and both eylets poped out. Obviously manufactured cheeply as componants are poorly put together and fail. I would suggest paying a bit more for a superior product. Show details
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Swag and bag leaks. Company so Dodgey!!! – Absolute garbage. Dodgiest company dodging their obligations under Australian consumer law refusing to refund faulty products making you jump through hoops to get a simple refund for mis-advertised faulty products. Swag and bag LEAK like a sieve despite seasoning 3 times. Shocking. This is sold as waterproof yet water comes in everywhere. Now… Read more
struggling to deal with this Dodgey company for a refund under ACL.
You can’t just turn up to a store for a refund! They will admin you to death before giving you a refund.
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Kings swag: Wet night & ruined holiday – Cheap canvas! Followed instructions exactly. Soaked and allowed to dry 3 times (I had problems with other canvas products, so hoped this was better). Note: I allowed it to dry fully between each hosing. 1st night of 'lite' rain and every edge of my matress was drenched (and my pillow and blanket) to the point I had to cancel the rest of my fishing… Read more
& camping trip (more showers predicted, so no way to dry it while away) By the way, this trip was organised by my brother in law to fulfil a wish I had with my terminal cancer, so both of us devastated 1 week into a 2 week trip. 2nd fault was the holes the extendable roof pole goes into the canvas at each end, the circular clips that protect the canvas from ripping 'both' fell off upon set up. That should have been an indicator of quality 'before' the rain started. I already questioned the material thickness that is along the 'lower edges' of the swag as it feels thinner/ different to the canvas on the upper flaps. Only way to fix the leaking will be to try and scotch Guard it? (Just returned from trip and still drying matress, so I'll look into that if I get another chance?) That adds another $25-$50 to cost that needs to be allowed for when considering your purchase. Although we've just lost our chance before I need to start a new round of Chemo and radiotherapy. Life is short for all of us, but definitely don't need horror holidays to destroy the time left. Ps. I'm also 'still waiting' on a refund for items we were overcharged for earlier, even after multiple emails, calls and visits to Cairns store (But my chemotherapy & cancer fight takes precedence over that worry... this new issue really is hard to take)
Hi there, I have contacted you privately to try look into this issue for you further. Regards, Courtney
Terrible swag, and even worse customer service! – After purchasing the Big Daddy Deluxe Swag and canvas bag from 4WD Supacentre, I got home and followed the manufacturer’s instructions to season the swag. Despite multiple attempts (twice and even three times a day) to season the swag over five days, the swag continued to leak. It was only after reading online reviews that I realized the quality… Read more
of Adventure Kings products has declined significantly in recent years due to an apparent change in manufacturer.
After these five frustrating days, I decided to make the hours-long drive back to the store to request a full refund for both the swag and the canvas bag, as they were part of a package deal. I had read up on the Australian Consumers Law beforehand, and I believed the product’s issues constituted a major fault which would mean that I would receive a full refund. After returning the swag, the store staff insisted on additional testing before offering any compensation could be offered which I was okay with as they told me it would only be a day or two before I heard back from them.
After an ENTIRE week goes by, I received an email stating that I would NOT get a refund because the swag was repaired in a reasonable time, and a replacement was ready for pickup. This led to weeks of back-and-forth emails with their claims department, who frequently delayed responses (sometimes leaving me in the dark for up to 4 days after I’ve sent multiple emails!) After 3 weeks of emails and headaches, I settled for a replacement because they flat out refused to budge. Their claims department seems trained to deny refunds at all costs, even when they are very clearly in the wrong.
I agreed to the replacement on the condition that it be delivered to my home. Without any confirmation of delivery or even acknowledgement of this email I found the replacement swag outside my house one day when I got back from work. I thought it was all over, but they for whatever reason failed to deliver the canvas bag which I bought and returned with the swag. For the past week, I’ve been trying to get them to send the missing bag and I’m still in the process of getting it delivered.
After a month of frustrating interactions, I’ve concluded that 4WD Supacentre and their staff are more interested in taking a quick profit no matter the cost to their reputation than providing quality products or service. The swag is very poorly made, and the company’s approach to customer service is dismissive and profit-driven. Avoid this swag and, if possible, this company altogether.
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Multiple faults and returns are obstructive – Bought this a few weeks ago. Seasoned it multiple times in my back yard. Left it out over night in the rain and next day the entire inside was wet. At one end there was over an inch of water and I needed to use a vessel to scoop the water out before drying with a towel. Seasoned it again, left it out in the rain and the same happened. Took it… Read more
camping for its first ‘adventure’. The eyelet supporting the horizontal pole fell out. Then a pole broke. I dont want a replacement as the online reviews are awful (which I found out after buying). I’m after a refund. Took it into Supacentre. They told me to report the faults online. I uploaded photos but the returns team are insisting on a video. Apparently the photos of water inside, a broken eyelet and a broken pole aren’t enough.
I’ve explained that I can’t erect the tent and take a video of the water entering as the pole is broken. Either way then eyelet is broken so the outer shell is defective. They’re still insisting on a video. Not really sure how a video will help.
I’m pretty sure consumer law doesn’t require a video. I’ve replied saying it needs to be sorted otherwise I’ll be making a complaint to the ombudsman. I’m waiting to hear back. Interestingly just saw an advert on TV where they’re floating a King Daddy swag in a creek to show its waterproof!! A coincidence, or are lots of people having issues with these swags letting water in!!
Update: After almost posting my review, supacentre contacted me. After lots of emails supacentre agreed to a give me a credit refund for the swag and bag. They didn’t give me a time frame to return it. I had the flu. 2 weeks later they closed my case. I asked for it to be re-opened which they did. I’ve dropped the swag and bag back in store. They have now back tracked and are only giving me a credit refund for my swag. Why would I want a bag for a swag that I don’t have!! The only reason I don’t have a swag is the one provided was of such a pour quality. I have RBI’s made a complaint to the ombudsman as emailing supacentre was like head butting a brick wall!!
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Swag leeks and mattress squished – My swag leaks and mattress is completely squished on the edges. After season so many times my swag still leeks. It not waterproof at all. Be given run around with kings. There quality on product are no good. Never take to the same person or get a reply from the same person on your email. Sent photos, but they want video witch is to large to send.… Read more
The store says they can't process the claim until head office approval of it. Just want my money back to get a swag from another company for my child camp. Already missed out on one and have another in a week time.
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Poles are poor quality - broken 3rd time use – I was happy with this product the first two times it was used. Third time (within 18 months of purchase) and one of the end poles snapped. I'm now sitting on Good Friday in a chair sleeping until I can get to BCF to purchase a new swag, not the same brand. I'll be calling the 4WD Supercenter to discuss Show details
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POOR QUALITY - Woeful effort by 4WD Super Centre to Stand by its Products – Used three times, skin started ripping away at the eyelet tags where the swag is pegged down (as appears to be a common issue by these reviews). Under the Australian Consumer Law, businesses are required to meet very basic set of rights aka guarantees to consumers on their products - including selling products of ACCEPTABLE QUALITY. Acceptable… Read more
quality is deemed by the ACCC to mean that a product is is safe, DURABLE and free from defects.
4WD Supa Centre have declined to provide any support for this product, hiding conveniently behind the fact that it is over 12 months old and outside of their statutory warranty period.
This is not a perishable good that can reasonably be expected to deteriorate at the end of the warranty period. This is a product of unacceptable poor quality from day 1.
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Rubbish Swag – I purchased this swag 18 months ago and it has leaked every time it has rained. Even in light showers water gets through and the mattress gets soaked. I seasoned the canvas as the user manual said but like so many other people it doesn't make the swag waterproof. Kings, you need to stop selling these swags! Show details
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Quality has declined from the one sold 2 years ago – I bought this swag 2 years ago for my son and it was really good with a good mattress and decided to buy another one recently. Unfortunately, the mattress is not as good and dense as used to be, even though still have the same name and description. Show details
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Absolute rubbish – Purchased it and there was stitching missing. It leaks like crazy even with light rain and the mattress gets soaked. Followed all the instructions with preparing the canvas with help from friends with experience. If you plan on going camping anywhere where it rains a lot like Melbourne or Tassie avoid these swags. Cheap, and made poorly in china.… Read more
Yes the canvas seems strong but the stitching is terrible. The part where the floor meets the top canvas is not watertight, even with waterproofing spray and conditioning the canvas will not stop the leaks. If it’s not raining and you are camping in dry locations it will be excellent and comfy with the large mattress. Otherwise avoid! Posted a pic, if you look at the bottom right where the canvas meets the plastic floor material, it leaks all along that stitching point.
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DO NOT BUY THIS CRAP CCP PRODUCT ! ! – See photos explains everything.. I bought this from store in Dandenong and I'm now in Swan Hill 4 hours away . I just rolled it out put mattress in it (on actually pre swept garage floor) and when rolling it up saw these 2 holes in floor of swag, which must of happened during manufacturing/packing.. the material on the bottom is like rubbery thin… Read more
pathetic material.. and while I'm at it I bought the carry bag to which is disgraceful had stitching material hanging of it everywhere and a mark on it straight out of bag .. I'm angry in a big way .. what absolute crap CCP SNOT !! I WANT MY MONEY BACK
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Anorher leaking kings big daddy swag – 2nd Big daddy swag after the first one was replaced due to leaks New skin was supplied after tge first one leaked The new skin has been seasoned multiple times the top half of the swag is fine with no leaks but at the first drop of light rain water pours in through the seam between the walls and the base.wetting the mattress Ive seen some older… Read more
models with a different seem at the wall and floor which dont leak this current model is rubbish. avoid unless your camping in a desert and can guarantee its not going to get wet
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