Only for job-site, not accurate at all
Spent 2 days trying to align and set it square.
Fence is not locking square to the blade. If you push it in position from the left or right, always different. There is a YouTube clip of a German guy trying to align it, tried that, didn't work.
There is a lot of play in the sliding rail on the left hand side of the blade, and it also sits higher than the rest of the table. The cross-cut sled that goes in it has play as well, combine those and you get no accuracy in cross-cuts.
My rating is based on one issue where the 10xc stands out - cutting power. Hot knife through butter is the relevant phrase. I cut a lot of ancient hard native (NZ) timber and this is the saw for the job. Much better than the De Walt of similar watts that I had previously. The only negative is that the fence is not as precise as the De Walt which had a system of cogs with a magnified reading at each end. The Bosch 10xc just slides and clamps and you need to check the fence for square each time - but it is still pretty accurate.
Sturdy machine - best in its class
It is NOT a cabinet saw and out of 5 I'll give it 4-4.5 stars. The finishing is excellent, the extras are welcome, the idea of adding a router between the saw table and extension excellent. Herewith a few points to ponder (or to be sorted out).... Being a matte table surface makes sliding a bit sticky, not much, but still. The sliding table is about just 1-1.5 mm (0.059") higher than the table surface, which makes it nearly impossible to square a piece of wood running over onto the sliding table, especially working from left to right against th...e fence. I have taken the slide apart to see if the sliders can be skimmed, but the tolerances are to small for that. I have raised the clearance plate thought to be more or level with the sliding table but then it causes issues in other ways. The fence is by default not square to the table (mitre slots or blade), but that was sorted out by loosening the top two hex screws and adjust it to the mitre slots. The blade was pretty much square with the table and mitre slots. The table surface by itself is not flat. Running a straight edge against the table surface, there is a lot of light shining through (Bosch, take note, add another 5kg to the saw by adding a decent skimmed top and align every thing) Recommendations: Once the warranty has expired I'll lose 5mm cutting depth for a 5mm shiny steel plate as a surface (some work to be done for the mitre slots). I'll also replace the fence with a SuperCoolTool fence (can do it myself). Otherwise, a steady machine with a lot of potential. I'll recommend this Bosch above all other portable table saws. In the long run with a lot of use - we'll see?
An excellent saw on it's class
Bought this saw with free stand and a bonus portable jobsite radio from Just Tools. It's on special, I think around $1035. The radio was redeemable from bosch website. What's good about this beast it it's onboard accessories and the two tools. Out from the box the rip fence was parallel from the saw and from the groove. The groove will be the reference when moving the rip fence. Parallelism of the saw are adjustable on page 12 of the manual. I have changed the blade of this to bosch 100T optiline 254 mm with arbor size of 30 mm which is availab...le at Master home improvement. The pack includes the reducer ring to fit the 1 inch or 25.4mm arbor of the saw. The manual says to not use a reducer ring. I don't know why, I have tested it and everything was alright. You just have to adjust the pointer to get the exact measurement when changing to a thinner blade. One thing you might have to adjust here too are the mitre and the bevel pointers. My mitre is 1 degree off the 90 deg. I have loosen two screws, one stopper and the other one is the pointer. With the engineers triangle ( make sure it's a good quality) one side on the tables groove and the other on mitre side it's easy to adjust it to a perfect 90 deg. Although the bosch optiline still chips the melamine board, there are some technique online to get a clean cut. Tried to get Freud blades, but their 254mm blades 80T is not available for 24.5mm arbor size of the saw. Hope in the future they will as they have a very good review when cutting melamine. I would highly recommend this saw for accurate cuts which is critical when making drawers and covers. Update: 5/6/2015 Just got my hand on Freud Diablo 60T 30mm arbor with reduction rings that will fit this machine. It's available on Bunnings at $90. Tested it on white melamine boards and it's a big difference compared to Bosch optiline. Freud 60T has beaten the 100T of Bosch! It's whisper quiet while cutting and very minimal drag! I have a chip free clean cut on melamine boards. Just lower the blade to just a bit over to the thickness of the board to achieve this professional result.
GTS 10J, Little brother is a ripper....
I read the above review, and I have to say what a load of tripe. I had to rip down bevels on site for custom matched mdf skirting, modify existing jarrah architraves by cutting them down, panels, thin mdf etc. I bought the cheaper GTS10j with stand with some trepidation based on these reviews, but as there wasn't much else to choose from took the plunge.
It worked all day without a drama, cut thin and straight with the existing blade and I never had a problem. The rip fence was parallel in any position. I got smooth finish cuts on 20mm jarrah to 3mm mdf sheet with the blade out of the box.... just started it up and ripped into it (no pun intended).
I am impressed with it and it adds to my other Bosch blue tools
Buy this at your own risk
I've now had this saw about a year. After all the initial teething troubles I've grown to appreciate its clever design features. With a decent blade, it's a usable saw.
I still wouldn't recommend it. Even if I'm the only person in the world who got a dud when I bought it, I still didn't appreciate Bosch's attitude and I still don't buy Bosch any more.
But, now all my frustrations are so far in the past I guess I'd give this 3 stars. Or maybe only 2, considering the awful way of adjusting the blade angle.
As the other reviewer point...s out, if you make accessories for this saw they're not going to fit any other saw - and if you already have accessories, they're not going to fit this. He also points out that there is now a 2 year warranty on it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a very critical review so I’d better say right away that I’ve used Bosch tools at home and at work since 1983 and always found them to be excellent. I’ve used table saws since 1970.
Very Good, Just Short of Great
Other reviews of this table saw and previous bad experiences with Bosch "Green" power tools led me to cross this product off the candidate list. Trouble is, none of the other saws available in our limited Australian power tool market scored well in the reviews either. So I made the rounds of the hardware stores and tool specialists to see the products for myself.
The "cheapies", Ryobi, Ozito, Einhell etc. were all small and of very poor quality. It would be difficult to make a straight cut. The only in-stock options I could find in the bett...er quality category were the Makita and the two Bosch saws. The Makita looked OK-ish. But the Bosch saws looked better. My budget would only stretch to the lower priced model, so with the salesman's reassurances stifling my misgivings, I took the plunge. Obvious benefits of the GTS 10 J were the accessories that come as standard, including a surprisingly stable folding stand, very good quality fence, mitre gauge, thin stock fence attachment, push stick, dust boot to connect to your shopvac, blade guard with riving knife, cord minder and hex keys. The best part is, everything has it's own little place on-board. Thus endeth the frustrating hunt for missing bits and pieces. Brilliant. No finger boards were included. This saw is designed as a job site tool, and the designers have done a great job of making it compact and robust enough to withstand real world wear and tear. It's just light enough for one man to lift and there are two separate pairs of "grab points" to give you carrying options. The stand sets up easily and has positive retaining clips to securely locate the saw into place. Sliding the saw into place however is difficult and the clips could use a bit of re-engineering. You can't just plonk it down on top, you have to slide it forward into clips you can't see. This isn't really a one man job. The tabletop expands on one side to accept large boards or panels. Unfortunately, the fence channel moves with the extension, so every cm you gain on one side, you lose on the other, moving the fence closer and closer to the blade. You can cut medium sized panels this way, but only in relatively thin strips. The fence however is excellent. It glides over the table top and when you lock it down it stays put, without lateral movement to throw off your setting. Saves a lot of time and aggro. The mitre gauge is typically flimsy and a bit wobbly but OK for small stock and rough cuts.
Questions & Answers
Is the smaller table size on the smaller gts 10J a nuisance for long (2m) timber lengths?
Actually no. There's enough length on the table to clamp a guide board, which you can make as long as you like. Feather boards are difficult, as the Bosch mitre slots are non-standard, although you can make your own mitre bars to fit. I always place a roller stand front and back (in-feed and out-feed) and have no problem. If you do mega amounts of long production work, just build two work tables and sit the saw in between.
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