Any excellent pathway to vintage scootering
To me personally, only 'proper' scooter is a manual transmission - twist - gear scooter. I own some vintage Vespas overseas and here in Australia, to get the 'proper' scootering experience - you basically have 3 options.
1. Buy a vintage Vespa (say a 1960s Vespa Sprint) and keep caring for it constantly. Will be difficult to use it as a daily ride.
2. Buy a Vespa PX150 (only manual transmission on offer as of 2017) - OR
3. Buy a LML Star2 Deluxe
The Star Delux is an exact licensed copy of the PX with some minor stying differences such as ...
LML Star 200 Review Portugal Experience
I have one 2016 LML Star 200 with 4900 km, i bought this bike because i wanted an War machine in terms of engineering!! So what are my characteristics in one War machine:
1- The engine must be simple, robust and economical, i think one 200cc air cooled, Carburettor with 2 valves its perfect for the Job;
2- the drive system must be the maximum robust, So the LML\Vespa have one engine connected directly to the rear wheel, this is more reliable then a shaft drive system and offcorse more robust then a Chain or Belt =)..
3- must be fast and eas...
Don't buy it.
I bought an LML Star 151 manual gear in July 2015 and I have done 1300km. In six months the fuel instrument failed twice, the speed instrument one, the direction light both failed. the components are really bad assembled and the gear is really tough to operate and not precise at all. Also try to check the prices for a used one, The price drops the second after you buy it of 30%.
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No after sale service and poor quality
I have owned a LML Star 4 stroke for 11 months. In that time the gear/clutch box failed, bearings failed, clutch cable snapped and electric start has stopped working. Also the paintwork quality is poor. There is no after sale service and sourcing replacement parts is next to impossible. Be warned!
I bought my LML star 2 scooter 3 months ago and I've had nothing but problems. It won't start half the time and there is nobody in Australia to contact. Worst decision I've ever made. I am currently trying to either get a new scooter or get my money back.
A re-badged PX with a little twist.
Having owned a 2005 Vespa PX 200 some years ago and ridden various geared two stroke Vespas I was keen to find out more about the LML 150 2T and took a demo model for a spin. What I didn't expect was how good it was and 24 hours later it was sitting in my lounge room and being compared to my original PX 200.
I can honestly say without bias that IT IS a PX Vespa with some very minor differences such as the speedo/odo/fuel gauge display and switch blocks the only differences on visual inspection. Apart from that there isn't really anything el...se except when you ride it... The big difference is in the engine! The 150cc 2 stroke feels punchier than my PX 200 down low in the rev range which could be gearing but might be the more advanced 5 port reed valve LML uses. I can't remember my stock Vespa PX 200 feeling as lively as this and this is with all restrictions in place! I just can't wait to remove the stock pipe and free up the engine because the engine on these are so much fun, hard to keep the front wheel down on take off :) I must mention that the front disc brake on the LML works very well and has you pulling up in no time. Apparently the steel LML uses for the chassis is stronger than the current Piaggio version, however, I would say the paint quality on the current Piaggio PX's appears better. For a $3000 + saving (I bought a demo) and with the added punch of the engine I consider the LML a fantastic buy compared to the Piaggio. So, if you are considering one I have no hesitation in saying DO IT! with the money you save buy a sito plus+ exhaust, up-jet the carb and add a better air filter for as little as $130 (on-line from S.I.P in Germany) for a Big amount of extra punch go all out with a Polini, Malossi Pinassco or DR kit (approx $1000 fitted) or any other bigger bore kit and give those overweight Vespa GT's a sniff of your 2-stroke tail smoke as your Indian born Italian Wasp fly's by for a fraction of the cost of modern, water cooled, complicated, lounge-room lumps :)
Questions & Answers
Hi guys, I've just recently bought a Vespa VBB(1965 model)that I think has been imported from India. It has an LML 150 engine fitted( 10 inch wheel conversion front and rear), but to my surprise there is no 4th gear!!
If I'm not mistaken don't LML's have 4 gears just like the PX??!! Any ideas/suggestions to my dilemma??!! Cheers. Andy.
I can confirm you that LML never made 3 geard scooters. Perhaps parts of the engine was replaced by LML parts.
Just got an lml125 2t 2016 when I break front wheel pulls to the left very scary, not sure what the problem is? Regards, cliff
Hi Cliff, sorry to hear about that, that certainly sounds like it need to be inspected by a qualified mechanic to ascertain the cause. Did you buy the scooter from a dealer? It should have a factory warranty.
Break Disc is only on the left hand side. So will pull a little this way. It is more noticeable when turning corners. Straight braking should be ok
yes just bought lm; star 150 4 stroke never ridden before it seems real heavy i have never had a bike any tips on releasing foot stand and holding up when not going? Yes i'm female bit worried ive boght something to heavy to use ive drove a car for years but...
Hi Valerie, I'm not sure where you're from but if you've never ridden a manual motorcycle or scooter before, there's a bit to learn before you are comfortable and able to enjoy it. I suggest you have a professional motorcycle trainer give you some lessons so that they can explain systems and techniques in getting the best out of your scooter. All the hand shift (manual) scooters take time to master and require lots of practice, they are not the best 1st choice for first timers but if you persist you will love your little scoot in time. The alternative is to buy a small 50 -100cc automatic scooter to get your confidence up and then step up to a hand shift manual scooter.
All the best.
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