55 hours old and has died
I'm over here in G.B. Bought my CMX227 2.5 years ago. Has been a brilliant bit of kit until recently, have about 4 acres of assorted sloping terrain, up to 45 degrees on the real bad bits, grass/scrub, this machine is used once or twice a year on the real nasty bits to keep it looking trim. Now the crunch, mine has the Subaru Robin EH65D 22hp engine. If you take off the air cleaner/filter you will see 3 x M6 screws that hold the filter base to the carburetor. well you guessed it one of the screws vibrated loose and as having no where to go, tra...pped inside the air filter, chose the only route possible, down the carb. Good news it got stuck in the valve seat against the open inlet valve. If it would have gone further in would have played ping pong with the piston, head and bore, scrap engine!. There is no sign of locktite on the other screws and I cant believe there is no lock tap on the M6 pins. So other Subaru engine owners be warned, pull your filter off and check these bolts now, I think I'm right as all the Subaru engines are the same in design. Oh and dealer says out of warranty, pulled it apart, fixed the valve, but 3 weeks and waiting on gaskets that are coming from Japan with no predictive delivery date. 55 hours old, machine cost 12,500 GBP that 275 for each hour. Expensive machine!
Purchased in January 2017 at Canycom UK for $24,000.00.
Great mower goes anywhere on our 10 acre hilly property - rides down the sides of the creek bed as long as I hang onto the side handles - even managers the smaller surface rocks ok - have owned it for several years (I was probably the first in the Kingston Tasmania area to buy one) and only reversed the blades once. Sometimes have to lock the rear diff to get out of the soft ground after heavy rain - once had to pull it out with the winch on the 4wd but that was my fault. If we had purchased this before the Chinese 45HP 4wd tractor with slasher we would not have purchased the tractor - have sold the slasher and never use the tractor for mowing as it could not handle the turns on the sides of the hills. Would be better with larger tyres.
Purchased in November 2013.
- All Terrain CMX186
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A workhorse! But with small faults.
This is a machine! Effectively you're riding a slasher in 4wd go-cart form. It goes practically anywhere and not just slashes but mulches. Even small saplings and rocks that you don't intend to run over. Very economical too. Fires fire goes on one tank. Small issues with small parts failing and it collects dust quickly which affects running and needs cleaning but it eats bushes and ground flora and makes small work of a paddock and acreage.
I cant believe how this thing climbs
This machine is even better than i expected we have a hilly 4 acres that we had to cut with a brushcutter but since getting this it has made life so much easier it just cuts really thick grass lantana small trees sags and stuff like with ease that the brushcutter wont cut as it just tangles up on them the only negative thing i have got is be careful with big sticks in long grass as they can get caught in the tyre tread and come around with the tyre and jam up in between the tyre and body and fuel tank . But the panels are really good in the...way they can get a big stick jammed in there and bend it right in and pop straight back into place when stick is removed and the price very expensive but they are worth every cent very happy with mine cant recommend enough but check your air filter very regularly and blow grass away from on top of deck and the fans
It's been great ...but !!
It's been very safe and has been able to mow just about anywhere. I have had it for about 5 years and have used two sets of blades. It cuts the lawn around the house very well despite not having a floating deck. Recently a few problems have reared their ugly head . The chassis has cracked in two places, the blade belt idler pully bracket snapped. It is cutting too low even on the highest setting and is struggling to go up hills at any sort of pace. It has been serviced regularly by the local dealer. Various plastic parts are cracking and showing signs of fatigue.
A fantastic AWD mower
We’ve just purchased this mower as we own a rural property that has steep and unstable terrain. It mows the lawn like a dream! First day we got it, we were able to mow in the rain and had no issues sliding on the wet grass or mud. It is pretty good on fuel, and very comfortable to ride. It is easy enough to operate, particularly the reverse gear which was always a struggle on our old ride on. The mower has made maintenance of our land safe and easy.
Great Little Mower for the hills but not he best for manicured lawns
I spent 12 months doing my research as I have a split block half flat and half a mountain goat would like to live on.
This little mower goes up hills and angles you might be scared to walk on
It will cut through anything and you do have to worry about collecting fallen branches it just chews them up.
It doesn't matter if the grass is 3 inch or 3ft it just keeps going.
It feels really safe and really easy to control on hills
The hill and back paddock look amazing what used to take me 5 hours now I can do in two.
The Trailer option is a godsend for lugging gear around the acerage highly recommended.
Perfect for hilly country
The build quality and service received has been exceptional. So far, the machine has delivered on the expectations with the ability to mow all areas I previously only considered with a brush cutter and even on steep slopes, feels solid enough to take on the task. For those with steep country and arm pit undergrowth, I think you will be pleased with the outcome with one of these machines.
Awesome all-terrain mower
I bought the Razorback 1402 as I tried a friend's ride-on and rolled it as the slope is too steep, thankfully I switched the blades off after reading another horror story. Bruised ego was the only damage done. My Razorback is an awesome mower with the AWD and the diff lock - I need and use both. I have a block that is mostly 20 degree slopes and some areas closer to a 30 degree slope. The Razorback feels safe secure and does a brilliant job. The shaft drive AWD and Subaru engine sold me over the 2wd competitor which my neighbour has. you always...feel in complete control and it's like a smaller version of my Nissan Patrol :) Have only had it since May, so still need to go through summer and will then update any new comments. Mine has the added chequer plate steps which helps with comfort of your feet when you are 6'3" like me. It mows anything and destroys blackberry and anything else in it's way. It's was rather dear, but there is no price on personal safety. Shane at Dandenong Mower Power provided great service! Having used the mower for a whole season including slashing padddocks for two sets of friends I’m still amazed by its capability and no-fuss attitude. Can’t recommend it enough for steep and rough bush blocks.
It's good but..
Hi I also find access to the motor to do simple things like check and change oil difficult. Going up hills and cutting can be a struggle, and also have issues with lack of reverse / bent pedal and reduced drive power generally after only 45 hours.
I also had the seat upgrade and winch fitted, but placing the winch on the back makes it even harder to do repairs and checks.
No follow up support from local dealer despite a spend of $15,000 which is pretty poor, help with loss of mobility from local dealer mechanic hopeless .
But it doe...s handle bracken , blackberry etc and when working has helped me clear a lot of ground in very hilly country. Not a lot of ground clearance so places with rocks can be tricky . Turning with awd and diff locks engaged is hard. It is a lot of money but it will go where nothing else can.
Good and powerful
I bought the 14 horsepower razorback end of last year for a two and a half acre steep block in Brookfield. I had Toro zero turn before but the hydrostatic drive kept on playing up - they just can't handle the steep terrain. The Razorbacks are well engineered , maybe slightly awkward for taller people like myself. Even with the seat all the way back it still feels like my legs are in an uncomfortable position. Well constructed machine and seems to me made to last - apart from some cladding at the engine already coming off. Seems to me ...to be more difficult to service - yet to find where to change the oil and no idea where is the battery. Takes a lot longer to mow but seems to get up the hills ok. I would have preferred the bigger machine as when the terrain is boggy the mower does struggle somewhat ( even with dif lock) Cuts the broad leaf buffalo really well and looks neat once mowed . i recommend this machine for steep blocks . but if you are slightly big in posture or paunchy, I would get the bigger machine.
The Razorback is the only mower that could do my fairly hilly 5.5 acre block.Anything else would/could kill you.4WD is vital and unstoppable
However there are many considerations that need mention, If you are not a bit handy they would be an issue. The seat was useless on slopes.backache! Air cleaner needs cleaning OFTEN (AIR COMPRESSOR VITAL) Poor design a dust trap and the starter motor can get blocked severely and engage.Reverse pedal bends? Fibreglass covers can be damaged easily. Battery is hidden(could not find it) and takes some getti...ng at. Mowers are heavy and getting mower to the agent is not easy,need trailer and ramps. If mower is not starting you have no hope of loading it,so you have to fix it yourself.Fuel starvation as fuel lines got blocked with swarf!!! Local agent is not fantastic,received no usefull instructions on purchase.Probably because of the slopes the mower is heavy on fuel and was often hard to start (I fixed it) pre delivery checks did not happen. However on slopes and heavy mowing it is great. If you just want to mow large flat areas a waste of money. Note I have fitted a race style seat ,I spend some hours at a time on the mower and was unable to walk!!!!
Purchased in September 2016 for $15,500.00.
Fantastic piece of equipment but it can get bogged and has some soft metal
I bought my top of the range Razorback with a winch kit after many months of consideration and a thorough test drive.
Our property is in South Gippsland in Victoria, 'hilly' terrain would be an understatement. The land we purchased had been unkept for 15 years. It is was complete with bracken, fire weed and of course acres and acres of blackberry up to 3m high.
I've reclaimed more than 5 acres of infested land using this piece of wonderfully engeineered equipment. Mostly with ease.
We all know this is a fantastic machine, however after ju...
Absolutely unstoppable . Spent 1 hr on this beast mowing stuff I thought impossible. I mowed 2.5 metre high lantana 70mm thick and it just ate it up . I've spent hours brushcutting the steepest of terrains that this thing effortlessly mows on any angle . On flat stuff in 2wd high it's very quick and mows beautifully . I've got my life back
Great, but some floors
Its mechanical engineering is bullet proof, but same can't be said for its cosmetics/panels some of which have broken after 4 weeks.
It goes places I find difficult to walk up and has allowed me to reclaim land I never imagined possible. Definitely not a finishing mower.
It's a big investment, but have not regretted it.
Was concerned about cost initially, but now do not regret the purchase at all.
I have slopes and heavy clay soil and needed a 4wd tank to do the job. The CMX186 does this beautifully. I can do about 2 acres of 35 degree slopes with grass over 1m high and this machine smashes through it in much less time than you think it would. It is very stable on the slopes and surprisingly fuel efficient. I also use this machine as a ride on mulcher. As we bought a derelict property and need to cut a lot of tree limbs we ended up with piles of branches which the razorback destroys in minutes. I do not regret the purchase of this machine for one moment. It is a labour saving device that gives you back your time and it is fun smashing mother nature back to the boundary of your property.
Fantastic engineering and build quality
When I made the decision to start a steep slope mowing business I did a lot of research re one v's the other. Based on the advise given from a few people who own Razorbacks I took the plunge and forked out for the 227.
When you start using one of these machines you quickly learn that you will chicken out long before the machine does. I've had this one now for 14 months and have done 640 mostly very hard hours. The poor thing looks somewhat battered, I have welded a few things (mostly hair-line cracks in the cutting deck to stop them from growi...
Best & Safest mower. Worth every cent
I have steep uneven block. previous mower, John Deere X300 struggled on slopes.
This machine makes very light work of job. Used to spend at least 4 to 5 hours with brush cutter on steep banks etc. but now spend less than an hour, mainly around trees, garden edges and other objects
Feel very safe on this machine with low seating position and comfortable seat even on the steepest hills, across, up & down. Previous mower unstable plus was easy to loose control of down hills as brakes not up to the same standard as the Razorback.
Long Grass, sma...
Have to be seen to believe
I have a very hilly bush block that was covered in lantana. I cleared 4 acers of this thick scrub in a couple of weekends and now I just maintain after poisoning the regrowth. I also took it to a friends house with the same and he was astounded how much we cleared in two days. The blades have hit unseen rocks so many times and hardly show any wear at all. You never see these machines second hand, I think that speaks volumes. "Buy your last mower the first time"
I saw these and the Grillo's when i was first looking for a ride on when i saw the price tag it scared me off looking as my budget was only $5k.
Purchased a John Deere instead and due to steep hills could never cut everything, all the while i was watching my neighbor on his Razorback cutting everything on hills i would struggle to walk up. Even small branches were chewed up and spat out, stuff that would destroy my John Deere.
I lasted 6months with the John Deere and managed to pick up a well looked after 5yr old 2nd hand 1401 with only 90hr...
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Questions & Answers
How you comparing cmx186 2016 and 1402 with new Honda engine, comparison, which one is better and more reliable, any ones can help asap, I am just about to buy one and confused.
The 18hp engine is more powerful to get over and out of difficult terrain and will mulch with greater torque. Both engines are efficient and reliable. The extra costs are worth the purchase.
Hello Majid S,
The CMX186 has now been replaced with the CMX1808 which is powered by a Vanguard 18HP engine. Both the 186 and 1808 have twin cylinder engines around 18HP whereas the 1402 is a single cylinder 14HP engine. The higher horsepower twin cylinder engine will make heavy going and steep hills more manageable if this fits within your budget.
If you would like to discuss these machines further with our team, please give us a call on 1800 088 567.
The Razorback Team.
Where is the battery
The battery is located below the headlight. To access it you pull the front cover above the headlight forwards and then pull it upwards. It takes a bit of force.
There is an instruction decal at the rear of the front cover outlining battery removal.
If you need any further assistance please give us a call on 1800 088 567.
The Razorback Team
Is the statement 3 years warranty correct, is that from the manufacturer?
Thank you for you enquiry regarding the warranty on our Razorback mowers.
The warranty is provided by SME Mowers with support from the manufacturer in Japan.
The engine is warranted by the respective engine manufacturer.
If you would like a copy of the Warranty Statement, please email firstname.lastname@example.org, as unfortunately it can't be attached here.
The Razorback Team
Good luck getting answers. They ignore emails. Contact details are a waste of time. I have bad feelings for ongoing support etc.
Apologies for the delay in responding, our Service Manager has been travelling this week.
If you would like to speak to someone here about your machine, please call us on 1800 088 567.
The Razorback Team
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