Never to touch
I have to agree with an earlier comment, first and last time I will ever go near an Alfa Rome again. Purchased the top of the line 2011 JTD 159 Ti with 65,000km on the clock. It has spent more time in the shop then out of it and ever time you count in $1,000's. First got a chug in the engine which required several visits prior to cleaning the head, in excess of $2k. Still didn't fix the chug. Then chewed the front tyres out, had to replace the front suspension $1.5k. Rear electric window winder, $600, Now diesel injector leak, approx $8.5k. All this in 20,000km. Don't ever, ever, ever go near them.
Purchased in June 2019 for $10,500.00.
I loved my 159 diesel,
I used to get 960k out of a tank with 70 freeway 30 Citi and 1100 straight freeway. The car was pretty reliable with own a couple parts needing replacement in my ownership.
Purchased in January 2010 at Private seller for $16,500.00.
Absolute Luxury Bargain. Make sure you get one with the work done on it
I went from being a German nut going from Mercedes to Alfa's. Well it was a bargain. About 10% of the original sticker price so I said to myself, what have I got to lose. It just looked so beautiful and oh boy what a solid drive. Thanks to the help on the Alfa forums I was well informed to look for things like timing chain, brakes, service etc so I made sure these were done otherwise $1200 job!! Also the great thing about the 2.2 JTS is that it uses the same engines as the Open, Vauxhall and Holden Astra. So guess what, rather than spendin...g $38 for an Alfa filter cost $6 for a Holden one that is exactly the same! Excellent on fuel economy, especially the manual. Found it cheap to run and no issues to date to report. I guess like any car, they just have to be maintained and looks like the previous owner really looked after it. I have only praise and absolute recommendation after owning several Mercs this one is certainly less on the hip pocket.
Purchased in April 2017 for $7,500.00.
Having always admired the style of this car I finally decided to take a chance on an Alfa. I've owned a number of BMW's, an Audi as well as a couple of older fords in my youth for reference. I bought from a guy moving overseas for a really low price and figured I'd need to spend a few dollars fixing whatever was wrong with it although I could not for the life of me find anything wrong with it when I bought it. Anyhow, I had put aside $4k to fix any potential problems but after owning it for over 2 years and driven it over 40000km I'm still waiting for something to go wrong! So much for Alfa's bad reputation! None of my 4 new BMW'S gave me trouble free motoring. Love this thing.
Yay!!!! Finally an Alfa that works!
This is my third red Alfa after being burnt by very unreliable 33 and 156 models. This car is a joy to look at and undoubtedly the most stunning car on the road. I bought mine secondhand at 3 years old with 38000kms on the clock. 4 years and 100000kms later can happily say it has not broken down once or hand any glitch or malfunction that I have had with any other Alfa. Everything works all the time. Granted it doesn't drive with the same soul that the older Alfas had. Its more like a the Toyota Camry of Alfas but its great to finally own one that is reliable and doesn't cost $1000's in repairs.
Great value Euro-Styled Gem
Bought this car second hand. Had one BIG issue which was the exhaust gas recirculation valve problem, well known with these diesels. No problems since capped off. Otherwise, inside and outside build quality and styling are superb. The car is solid and fast with 147kw and 400Nm.
Downsides are poor rear seat legroom. I'm 6'3 so kids don't have much room behind me. Also,average 9-10L/100kms which is no where near the book efficiency ( is any car?).
I love my Alfa and plan on keeping it as a second car but will need a bigger vehicle soon to fit t...
Great car to drive, to look at and reliable too.
When i first bought this car I was a little concerned with Alfas reputation with reliability etc.
But i loved how it drove and how it looked .... 4 years or so later and still love those things about it.
NO reliability dramas at all !! But i've regularly serviced it too with Brian Foley in Sydney. (not a dealer, just Alfa specialist)
Services are cheaper than Subaru and others I've owned.
Some things of note on the downside are squeaky brakes lately and rear pass window regulator failed.
Other than those, the car has been really g...
Style And Grunt That Eats Audis For Breakfast
A few fast facts on my 2.4 litre diesel Alfa. A few years back I sold an Audi Allroad V6 Diesel wagon as my kids were getting their licenses and we didn't need a big wagon anymore. But I missed driving it and went back in the market looking for a diesel wagon with good solid performance and that sublime comfort of a long distance tourer. Test drove a few then thought I'd look at an Alfa 159 diesel.The Audi just doesn't compare.The two cars are very close in features, same size tyres,braking system, similar track and interior space,similar 8 spe...aker audio system, and the Alfa has most of the Audi features but then adds a swag load more.The cockpit for one is a far more impressive place to be, and the seats are so much more comfortable.But its driving the two where the Alfa eats it alive.The 5 cylinder diesel beats the Audi V6 hands down, 400 nm versus 370 nm and the gearbox with a 6 speed box with flappy paddles versus the Audi tipshift 5 speeder is a quicker and more responsive drive as well as more economical.The 5 cylinder has a growl all of its own and once past 3,000 rpm it absolutely flies.Once you compare the features and comfort of the two, look at the design and the performance the Audi is pedestrian by comparison. Here's the best bit.....they're half the price! Can't really understand why they aren't more popular, I've had a great run from mine, servicing and parts are way cheaper than my Audi and every passenger that sits in those supportive leather seats comments on how luxurious and comfortable they are. If you are looking for a top Euro wagon dismiss the 159 at your peril. Its too much car for the money not to consider.
$ vs Experience (Excellent)
Just brought a 2007 Q4 3.2 auto JTS with 110000km. Took it to my local mechanic & could do the work required. Looks great, gets up & goes so well. Sounds superb & can be a little thirsty. (Who cares) Loving the experience especially for the price paid. Very nice
Updated review (see FUN!!)
I still have my 159 and it is now running up in distance so thought it to review it again. My 2007 159 2.2 JTS has now done over 210 000 km and is still going really well. The engine and gearbox are still perfect but it has had some significant repairs. It had a new clutch at 155 000 km ($2500), front control arms ($1200) and front shock absorbers and brake rotors ($1200). This is all fair wear and tear in my view as I drive a lot on VERY rough, windey roads in Northern NSW and SE Qld. Do not get spares through Alfa Australia, Turin Spares in ...Melbourne and others get them from europe at a fraction of the price. Services are cheap, at $300 every 20 000 km since i don't have a warranty any more.The only annoying repair was an exhaust valve that connects to the engine management system and caused the dash warnings to light up nicely for which I had to go to a specialist Alfa dealer (my usual mechanic doesn't have the computer system needed) which also cost $1200!!! mostly labour. The engine mounts probably need doing and I will do the rear shocks soon, but you expect that in an older car and they aren't bad. It has been extremely reliable, the only time it let me down was when the battery died - not the car's fault. It has electric brakes and tows a boat or horse float brilliantly - firm suspension, good brakes and plenty of power. For $18000 I have a great car that does everything I need and I intend to keep it.
2012 Alfa 159Ti Unreliable
This was my second Alfa 159 (the previous one was a 2007 model 2.2JTS).
After less than two years, the aircon stopped working and it took the dealer three and a half months to get it working again.
I filed a claim with the Motor Vehicle Disputes Tribunal for the unreasonable time it took to affect the repair.
The MVDT concluded that the vehicle "failed to comply with the guarantee of acceptable quality in the Consumers Guarantee Act."
It also concluded that it didn't involve a "failure of substantial character" and so refused to award me any compensation. I don't agree with that decision. To me, having a car without aircon in the middle of summer is a failure of substantial character.
Updated Review After A Few Months Of Living With It.
I bought this as I was looking for a car that had a solid 5 star ancap or equivalent rating with full array of passive and active safety and this fit the bill in that respect, I also wanted leather and auto climate, reverse sensors, etc. etc. Mines the baby 2.2 jts petrol which is basically a Holden astra motor with some Alfa fiddling done to it.
I have the selespeed version which is essentially a conventional manual with the clutch being controlled by the management system, it takes some getting used to and the throttle on take off is best...applied as if you were driving a manual not a conventional torque converter auto. Think carefully when buying this version as on a short drive you'll miss some problems. It's annoying in traffic, it takes too much concentration to drive smoothly far more than even a conventional manual. It's useless in "city" mode which is Alfa's automatic mode where it's too slow to down shift often leaving you in an unsuitable spot in the wrong gear whilst another car or truck is hurtling at you. The shifts are very slow at low throttle and rpm so you pull the lever or paddle and then wait for it to slur to the next gear. This is no DSG box from VW or any other competent manufacturer, it's slow, rough and primitive in operation but can be fun when actually driving to the redline and the shifts happen faster. There is a sport mode which shifts super fast at high rpm but it's so rough expect engine mounts to fail and probably the DMF at some point. Practicality is a bit typical of Italian cars, essentially it has very little, tiny centre console which is actually a cooler big enough for 2 drink cans with a coin tray on top, one cup holder, tiny glove box for some paperwork a cd maybe and a phone charge cable, it's so lacking that my wallet, phone and bits and pieces are in the door pockets. The front legroom is great but shoulder room can be tight if 2 adults are in the front and the back seat is tiny, if your driver is 6'0 or less you could probably get a passenger back there for a short trip but it would require the driver squash forward a bit, the upside of this is the boots large for a short car as a result of the useless back seat. The car has a long overhang on the front and will scrape the bumper if you don't know how to drive up driveways slowly, worse on TI versions due to reduced suspension height. Pros: Amazing to look at. Sweet interior with the best to be seen at night with everything lit up in red (mines also red leather inside).
Best looking car ever
I have a alpha Romeo 159 2.4 turbo diesel and it is a pure delight to drive. Very sexy to look at and has a very sporty feel whilst driving. It handles beautifully and has a ton of pace. Only criticism is its a bit low to the ground so have to watch steep decent car parks. You do need find a good service centre or you can be ripped off.
Lovely car to own but headache for reliablity
The car handles well . My advise buy the manual only . Got the problem after 110k on clock. The quality material especially the leather asthonishing. After you reach more than 110k better sell it the car will cost you a lot of problem maintenance cost sometimes not worth . And the resale value drop dramaticcally over time. But dont worry about to sell it. There's always some Italian fanatic who wants the car. I sell it for market value only 3 days. Surprise
2011 Alfa 159 1750 Ti
This would have to be one of the best vehicles I've ever driven. The comfort levels are brilliant as I'm 6'4" and that can be a problem, solved by having electric heated leather sports seats that fit both my wife an
d I perfectly. The car doesn't need to be driven hard it does the job perfectly and goes plenty hard enough when needed. Its about to go in for its 70,000k service and compared to a friends BMW325 the 159 has cost 1/5th of his service costs over the same period/mileage. Its simply been a pleasure to own.. looks great and has been a car I've loved to drive for 3 years.
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Looking at a purchasing 2008 159 JTS Ti Auto Petrol version - any feedback?
3.2 q4 jts what clutch set up does it come with from the factory
Hi All I am looking at a 2007 2.4 diesel that needs the oil pump replaced. What sort of money am I looking at?.Thanks
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