Well, i just bought c200k coupe with p7's on them. Tyres are old enough BUT i have had so many cars with so many tyres and i was selling tyres too - working in store. I have never ever seen tyres dangerous like these. The only reason i found this conversation coz I'm afraid and googled some info. I cannot launch the car even from 2k rpm, abs and esp are lighting like a chrismas tree. Wheelspin even on third gear shift and damnd my car is not as fast at all.
have 2 cars with the p7 both sets have delaminated one sent me in a spin off the road
worst tires i have ever owned
3 of the 8 tires have air leaking through the tread blocks from breakdown
2 of them delaminated
and one blew out
all tyres have been kept at 38psi using nitrogen checked once a week
of the 8 tyres only 2 survived and all tyres still had over 50% tread.
i have seen better quality out of cheap brands like the rotalla f105 or even the lassa phenoma's
and at least they don't have rapid degradation that tries to kill you!!!
Great all round tyre
Have had the P7's on a Peugeot 307 wagon (now near end of second set) and found the tyres to have very good wet and dry grip, good cornering and response. Reasonable life approx 40-50,000 K on FWD, and can get a bit noisy when near end of life. For the price and performance I think they are a good medium to upper end tyre.
Grip and response
Can get noisy when near end of life
Great value and performance
Second set, fitted by Jaxx Geelong. I got 85000 on the first set and am on 80000 on my second. A lot of highway Kms, with proper pressures and rotations theses tyres are awesome.
Brilliant with a load in the tray and great in the wet!
Very happy with theses tyres, for value, grab these!
Price, grip and longevity (unless you drive like a p-plater!)
Didn't get 100,000 Kms!
The P7's 215/60R16 are fitted to a AWD Subaru Forester, my return journey work four days a week includes 14 km of gravel, a climb and descent on the Dorrigo Mountain Road, 400 km each week. It can be a challenging drive as the weather is quite volatile, and these tyres do the job very well, offering good grip, predictable handling and smooth braking. They can squeal when pushed hard on the bends and on the painted lines, there is a confident feel offered, as I know they are capable of giving more than I will ask in day to day driving. The moun...tain is known for being hard on tyres (and drivers) and the wear is even across the tread. Regular checks at JAX Coffs Harbour, wheel alignments and 36 psi inflation are part of my car maintenance routine. On the highway they perform well, with manoeuvring at speed being predictable and positive grip. On the gravel road there is also a confident feel, for there I drive with added caution, it being narrow and windy with on coming traffic, the steering is reliable, wet or dry. At work I drive a variety of vehicles and get to appreciate the variations in handling and performance that tyres can create. Given the road conditions on the mountain and our gravel road, it being fitted on an AWD, and my tendency to be a bit more spirited in my own car; I consider that 40000 km is a reasonable life for such tyres. Motoring has its price, and at $150 per tyre it does add up (1.5 cents/km = $1.50/100 km, is equivalent to a litre of fuel), but that is the cost of getting around with safety and confidence. With all that said, I'm still open to trying something else.......like the Pirelli Cinturato P7. Good grip, predictable handling, even wear, confident feel, reliable
Best all rounder
Had these on my BA Falcon and got about 70k out of them never had a worry about traction very comfortable put them on my Vy Berlina same result fantastic safe tyre won't change for anything. Bought them from Jax Liverpool . They do me a fantastic wheel alignment makes all the difference.
Excellent grip wet and dry, no tyre screech around corners, comfy and silent
Wish I could get 100k out of them
OEM equipment on our Golf 6, and not impressed. Great mileage, have done 50,000klm and they're only about 60% worn, but they're very noisy on the road, and have quite high rolling resistance too. Handling in the dry and wet is fine, but the mileage is the only place they really shine.
Have had Pirelli P7 tyres on my 2007 Chrysler 300C from new and have done over 66000kms since buying the car in Feb 2008. Service people have told me I could get another 4,000 to 5,000kms before they will be illegal, so I am very happy with 70,000kms from these tyres and car still handles well. I am a little surprised by the negative comments about these tyres since I have done so well with them. I was planning on replacing with the same tyre, but I'm wondering if the quality has changed since they were originally fitted on my Chrysler.
Great handling and wear.
Long Lasting...Yeah right!
Asked Jaxx tyres for a long lasting tyre as the cheaper previous tyres on our Falcon only lasted about 30000k's and was informed the Pirelli p7 was superb, 30000k's later they were completely bald, despite the average service and information from Jaxx for the price I would say the worst tyre ive used, good comfy ride and handling but when the cost of tyres puts a decent whole in any budget the expection of long lasting tyres is a big priority. Overall good features ie ride, noise etc but cost v lifespan a big fat zero
The free shirt after complaining to Jax.....
Lifespan....and the terrible advice from Jax tyres! Not designed for the harsh Aus climate and roads!!!
When new, my Mazda 3 was fitted with Bridgestones, despite all care they became noisier over time, which you kind of get used to. Tyre dealers I spoke to said it was a common problem. The difference, or lack of noise, when I had the P7s fitted in Sept.2010(great deal at Bob Jane's)was remarkable. I am VERY happy with my P7s and would recommend them to any other driver.
Great handling in wet or dry conditions that gives a you a feeling of confidence & security. You know where you're at with this tyre. Very quiet.
A good grippy safe tyre smooth as silk.
I had an old set of Pirelli P6000s which were original equipment on my Mercedes E430. The old P6000s were getting tired and it was rather too easy to activate the traction control. P6000's were no longer made so the new P7's fixed this, as well as fixing the ride, making it less sloppy and "Lexus like"; making it feel firmer and more "Benz like". Trick is to run them at 36psi.
They seem to hold very well in the wet & bendy Blue Mountains.
Very smooth on the motorways, grippy in the wet and dry.
Fronts can tend to understeer at low speed. At $250 a corner they don't come cheap.
Proverbial jack of all trades, master of none.
I bought these tyres for $189 ea in 235/45R17 for my VT Commodore. Great grip in dry and wet conditions, reasonably comfortable ride, quiet enough, good tread life, nice looking; all in all an excellent balance for everyday use and mildly spirited use.
Reasonably priced, great grip in dry and wet conditions, reasonably comfortable ride, quiet enough, good tread life, nice looking.
The majority of my driving is in rural SA at highway speed, hence the need for a better performing reliable and secure tyre.
After 8000kms the Pirelli’s have addressed all of my needs.... and then some
The Pirelli P7 235/45/17 tyres running at 37 psi on my VZ Commodore with FE2 suspension. I have slotted disc rotors and performance pads to give me the added security of pulling up quickly when roos (and other wildlife) appear unexpectedly.
The P7’s have a better load rating of 99 which equates to a stronger construction that compared to the 9...
Ok Tyre, Not that great when compared to Yokohama C Drive.
I was informed by JAX that these were excellent tyres, in both wet and dry and very comfy and quiet. When all 4 sets were installed, these tyres were good in wet and dry, but not very comfy or quiet when compared to Yokohama C Drive. The rubber compounds used in Pirelli 7 appears to deteriorate over time after some 30,000kms, performance reduced. Yokohama C Drive tyres however remained constant, no loss in performance or deterioration of the rubber compound used in Yokohama Tyres after some 30,000kms in my other vehicle.
Good grip in wet and dry before 30,000kms.
Performance reduced after 30,000kms, not as quiet or comfy when compared to Yokohama C Drive.
Excellent all round tyre. Able to carry a full weight Commodore to a 12.5 second pass with a 1.7 second 60' at the track with only 30% tread. Needs to be fairly warm to maintain grip though and this does reduce tyre life. Although I have put nearly 80 passes on them and they have only just reached the wear indicators.
Outstanding grip on wet or dry roads.
Pirelli P7 delaminating
Our son and us had these tyres on our brand new Volvo cars when we bought them. Our son's car had one tyre delaminate at about 30,000km and one of our tyres has just done the same at 45,000. I'm very pleased it wasn't me driving at the time, as we live where the speed limit is 100km and a winding road with some substantial drop-off areas. We are just about to replace the tyres anyway and we were keen to replace with the same tyre, but not any more - too dangerous as there is no warning when this happens.
dangerous delamination without warning
I will never buy perelli again, they just use their name but these tyres are so bad. I dont think they have used any new technology in them either they are just an old model recycled. Dont buy this brand, my next ones will be bridgestones as I know they are fine. My old worn dunlop monzas were better, might put them back on till can afford others.
They are terrible tyres, they handle [censored word removed] and I wish I hadnt listened to the other good reviews on here about them.
THey handle bad in wind, Im scared of wet, and I cant even park in tight spots as well now. they have made my car [censored word removed].
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Questions & Answers
I have P7s on my Suzuki Grand Vitara , 3 tyres are fairly new and 1 tyre will need replacing very soon but they seemed to stop making them and i can't find any anywhere , to find one more tyre would last for years and then replace the lot so does anyone know where i can get a new P7 from , i live in W.A. so would have to be shipped , thanks .
Thinking of these or the Bridgestone potentza ? Heard Pirelli with punctures in there Run flats are not repairable while Bridgestone are ?
As far as I know the Pirelli P7 are not run flat tire. Mine certainly are not and I have had these repaired with no problem.
I too understand that the P7 is not available in a run flat version. There is alot of information about run flats on the Web, they appear to be a high end option. Once you have a puncture there is a limit to the distance that a run flat can travel, plus there are speed restrictions too.
A tyre pressure monitoring system (TPMS) can also be used to determine if a run flat is being used at zero pressure. This can be helpful for those who are not sensitive to mechanical matters and thus be prompted to have it repaired.
Here is a quote from Bridgestone regarding the tyre repair-
'Preconditions include a puncture of less than 6mm for both side-reinforced type and support-ring type Run-Flat Technology tires, plus minimal damage to the support ring in case of the latter. However, it is strongly recommended that the tire is replaced as its durability will have been weakened after being repaired.'
Q&A | BRIDGESTONE Run-Flat Technology
So it seems that repair shortens the life of a tyre, dependant upon the nature of the damage, which in turn has to do with driver awareness, and is not necessarily a brand related issue.
My current set of P7 Cinturato ( on a Subaru Forester) have been on the car for 14 months without a puncture (touch wood), which is pretty good considering the daily 10km (plus) of winding gravel road travel. Neighbours with 4WDs have had a quite a few flats. The Pirrellis have even wear and give good all round performance, just as a friend's car (a Mazda 3 with Bridgestone Ecopia), has coped well on the same road.
The death of a tyre is usually side wall damage, be it from a rock, from driving along a ditch edge or erosion gully, or from driving on a flat tyre, or scraping a sharp gutter. I have witnessed drivers as they travelled along, obvious to their tyre's condition, which was flat; so when I hear about one brand being more prone than another, a question about the circumstances and driver come to mind....
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