Toyota Prado
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Great car... have done multiple interstate trips with 3 kids and works fine. We have long fuel range which is great for remote travel after hours. No issues in 3 years and good value services. Actually has a real spare tyre. Show details
"Toyota Prado: A Premium Price for a Premium Headache" This car was fantastic for about a month—then the parade of issues began which I get to experience everyday on both short 50 - 2000km round trips. 1. Squealing brakes: Ear-splitting, tinnitus-inducing squeals. Apparently, this is a “known problem” with Prados. Even better, Toyota apparently… Read more
believes sending replacement brakes from Japan is optional. Who knew that in 2025, Australian customers would have to wait for brakes shipped via solo canoe?
2. Multi-media screen: Blacked out. Practically dead. Camera vision works, but that’s it. No audio, no navigation, no Bluetooth connectivity, no hands-free phone, and not even a way to set the clock. In other words, the car is basically a very expensive, extremely heavy, extremely silent paperweight with wheels. The fix? Wait for a part from Japan… eventually. Six weeks is “normal,” apparently. Toyota insists this is “a process,” and heaven forbid they keep frustrated customers happy by using the multiple daily flights from Japan to Australia.
Customer service highlights: Asked to escalate the issue? Sorry, managers don’t do “front-facing work.” They only receive forwarded feedback, which is corporate speak for: “we acknowledge your pain but will do absolutely nothing about it.” Brake squeal fix? On a “case-by-case” basis. Translation: If your brakes squeak less than the next poor soul’s, tough luck. Meanwhile, the cabin is delightfully quiet—except for every minor squeak, rub, and rattle. Something has clearly fallen loose above the glovebox and now plays its own percussion section every time I turn or shift. Water torture has never been so literal. With no audio, no radio, no navigation, no hands-free phone - I am developing a strong appreciation for silence lasting months while driving several thousand kilometers across our vast countryside everyday.
At this point, it’s not the dealership’s fault—it’s a Toyota Japan 'parts ordering and shipment (flawed) process' that fails to fix essentially brand new vehicles that are not functioning anywhere near like they should. When you pay serious money for a vehicle that’s only a few months old, the least you expect is a timely fix. Toyota’s head office excels at saying sorry and generating excuses but not much else.
Bottom line: Don’t buy a Prado unless you enjoy faulty vehicles, delayed repairs, and Toyota head office customer service that treats you like an extra in their corporate theater.
I purchased a Toyota Land Cruiser Prado 2021 with confidence, believing it to be a durable, premium SUV backed by Toyota’s reputation for reliability and strong warranty support. Unfortunately, my experience has been the complete opposite. With only 90,000 km on the clock and a full service history (all completed at Brian Hilton Toyota), the… Read more
vehicle developed a serious engine fault in May 2025, just 3.5 years into ownership and still under warranty. After a head gasket repair, it became undrivable due to a “Low Oil Pressure” warning, and has now been in the workshop for over 11 weeks.
Toyota has been unable to identify the fault, despite dismantling the engine. More frustratingly, I have received no clear communication or updates from Toyota Australia. My formal rejection of the vehicle under Australian Consumer Law has gone unanswered, and I’ve been forced to rent a vehicle at my own expense, with no replacement or reimbursement provided to date.
Even though Toyota promises a strong warranty and customer care, they’ve shown no urgency, no transparency, and no accountability. I’ve now escalated this issue to Fair Trading NSW and the ACCC, as my family and I cannot afford to keep waiting indefinitely while Toyota delays without action.
The Toyota Prado 2021 may be a great car on paper, but when something goes wrong, you’re on your own. I can no longer recommend Toyota based on this experience, nothing better than empty promises.
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Underwhelmed – Less room upfront. Lack of storage. Fixed rear seat. Waffle reinforcement in windscreen. Terrible boot space. Even worse plastic box in boot which is practically unusable. Annoying tow bar arrangement, carry around plastic covers because you cannot secure the tow ball with an anti rattle bolt, they give you shims to trial fit and attach to the… Read more
towball. Depressingly dark roof trim (in my vehicle) Less clearance and wading depth.
Improved seats, heated and cooled faux leather. Better economy. Rather neat split tailgate allowing rear screen to be opened separately. Good wireless CarPlay. Decent cameras now, plus front sensors. Nicely integrated factory bullbar.
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Look good, but...... they need ad blue, complex 48V systems, no boot space and expensive ouch! – Noticed a 250 in the car yard recently (was picking up a CX5). The new look is very boxy (i do like it) and i'd say around the size of a 300 series. I noticed they now need ad blue which adds a complexity and cost. If the Ad blue runs out, or the ad blue system fails the car won't start. This is concerning when travelling in remote regions.… Read more
Note: the Isuzu Mux does not have ad blue, it can't go wrong if you don't have it!.
I saw the rear boot area and its a deal breaker. Almost 1/3 of the area is filled up with batteries and seats. Not sure where bikes/fridges/draws would go...Or a mattress (it looks like they have forgotten the 7 seats and chucked them in at the end) - see photo attached. The MuX rear boot is enormous and the 7 seats sit perfectly flat. There is even a ridge so things don't fall out when you open the boot.
The weight of the car is around 2.6T and there are reports of sluggish performance on the open road/hill climbs/towing 3.5T with this weight (it's a large car with a small 4 cylinder after all). This weight also eats up your GCM + you'll need to add that bullbar, racks etc.
The fuel usage is also concerning, most reviewers are returning around 10.2l/100km when Isuzu MUX/others are getting low 7l/100km.
Servicing is 6 monthly, while most other 4x4s are 1 yearly, thus doubling the cost of ownership.
This model has engine stop / start (the engine completely shutdowns down at traffic lights), this not only increases engine wear, but you'll start to stress when the light turns green (and it doesn't start).
The price was around $110,000 for top spec, which is almost double the price of Isuzu MuX. I can't see the value. There are many other cars that can pull 3.5T for substantially less cost. If i was spending this amount i'd have to look at the 300 series, with 700Nm!, or buy an Isuzu MUX and save $50k - and NO ad blue and enormous boot!
There have been many reports of the 48V system failing (tow truck called). This system seems to be adding complexity, without providing any real fuel savings (in fact the actual real world fuel usage has increased to 10.2l/100km). I'd understand if the 48V system reduced fuel usage to 6l/100km but it doesn't, it just adds weight, increases fuel and decreases performance). I'd also like to understand the costs to replace the 48V battery when it dies, just out of warranty! (see attached photo).
Also, you'll have to spend $98,000 on the Altitude to get the "diff locks" on your new Prado. They don't come on the other models.
I'd also like to know what Toyota has done to address the systemic catastrophic engine failures on the 150 (holes in pistons / cracked pistons - Google it!) and DPF reliability issues (class action). Its the same motor, lets hope its fixed!
Great family car – We purchased this vehicle as an upgrade to our previous vehicle. We use it for family, sports and off road daily. Car gets serviced every 6 months which is ok. Previous vehicle was yearly. Turning circle is great considering the size of the vehicle. 7 seater spacious in back and front. Show details
Great Prado – I only have Mazda CX-9 and my dad owns a Tesla but a friend has a Prado. I ride in it. It rides a lot firmer than the land cruisers which makes it a little less fun to ride. The smaller than land cruiser size is perfect for carrying large items and shopping but fuel consumption isn't any better than land cruiser Show details
V6 Petrol is great, but car has two issues – I have a 2006 4.0 V6 GXL with automatic transmission, just coming up to 200,000km. I’ve owned it for about 10 years, since 70,000km, with no mechanical problems at all. I get it serviced by a professional every 10K kms. It’s a fantastic 4WD for touring, highway driving and light towing, and I would recommend it as a great 2nd hand purchase. … Read more
It’s done everything from being an urban tractor to a few rock climbs on 4WD trails. The drawbacks are: 1. Fuel use - needs 95 or 98 ULP and drinks it heavily. Best I’ve achieved is 11.2 litres/100km on a highway trip with two passengers and two suitcases. Urban driving is about 14L/100km. Towing a trailer or my JetSki adds 2 or 3 litres per 100km. I have roof racks but no bull bar, as I can see the extra weight would increase fuel use significantly. Do your own maths, but be aware that the Diesel engine typically costs more to service, and can cost a bomb if you have problems. 2. The dash board in the 120 Prado has a seriously bad cracking issue. It doesn’t affect the performance of anything but looks very ordinary. I cannot believe Toyota don’t replace all of them, because it really is a very poor manufacturing fault.
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Great car – We've had 2008 J120 4 litre V6 GX since new and use it pretty much daily. Just clicked over 280,000 k's and have had no significant problems. I service it myself and use top quality oil (Castrol Edge), filters and parts at 10k intervals. Since new have replaced 3 drive belts (for peace of mind, no other reason) spark plug set X 3 and tyres as… Read more
needed (stock Dunlops fitted were rubbish, but that's not news). During last service I replaced the power steering pump as had a slight leak and noticed one front shock is leaking - no big deal after 280 ks. Unfortunately the transfer case has developed a slight leak, but that is life. Has been a brilliant vehicle that has done a lot of off road and rural road work. Remember cruising between Alice and Tennant Creek at 160 kph then pulled off the road to scrabble up a long steep rocky hill for a view. Did it with aplomb and it took me about three days to stop smiling. The V6 is a bit thirsty (12.5, 13.5 if towing) but after reading reviews about diesel problems and costs...... It does not have unwanted complications (ABS, driver 'assist', 'tech' etc) which is wonderful for someone who enjoys driving. There is no nagging voice telling you what's coming up or any mechanical beeps, whistles or screams to distract you - it just quietly does its job and lets you do yours. I notice a lot of mechanics getting a bad rap over modern vehicle problems, but given the unnecessary complications in modern vehicles, I feel for them. Great load space once you take out the third row of seats (simple) and put them in the shed. Shame this modern obsession from motoring journalists about 'more of everything is better'. The average family size in Australia is 2.1 - if you need a people mover, buy a Kia Carnival. The 180 litre fuel tank is excellent, giving 12-1300 km range. No rattles after all this time - probably due to the absence of bling. Not sure what to buy if this vehicle dies - look for one the same, driven by a little old lady who only drives church on Sundays. I'd doubt very much that she'd part with it though.
GR8 AWD SUV – Purchased in June 2023 with 63,000Ks, came with new Cooper A/T Tyres, as we’ve recently moved to regional QLD we’ve fitted ARB steel B,bar, Winch, Snorkel & Kenwood in dash Gizmo with the lot, Remapped by Geelong Performance, we’ve since done 30,000Ks in 6 months Regional Vic Melbourne x 3, Adelaide x1, Roads have varied from Freeways to Single… Read more · 3
Dirt Tracks at Hwy Speed, consumption is steady at 9.2 Lt per 100, Giving Range of 1400-1500Ks. Prado is terrific no issues, strong acceleration between 80-120kph for overtaking, strong braking with BENDIX Ultimate 4WD pads & DBA Std Discs. My only future mods are 30mm increase in Front Springs as Steel B’bar & Winch sagged & replace front shockers with Bilsteins as Std shockers fade after 3-4 hours caused by extra weight, in rear a single storage drawer with a Drawer Fridge(Inc2nd Bat) will complete the setup. Serviced every 10,000 Ks by Repco Hervey Bay Purchased from Rex Gorrells in Geelong Show & Shine Lustre from using “Groundswell” 4WD Products
Other Prado owners who aren’t happy obviously haven’t test driven their Prado’s adequately. !!
Beware the luxury car timebomb! – This 3L D4D Prado is our 3rd and our first diesel engine model. It has been a pleasure to drive and tow our camper trailer with. BUT.... there is a hidden twist with D4D engines that Toyota are not acknowledging, and that is there is a good chance a piston will crack in these engines. Ours has just reached 273,000 km, and has been properly cared… Read more
for and serviced, however we recently decided to replace the fuel injectors as they were starting to go towards out of spec, and not long after, the engine expired with a cracked piston! Much research and talking with experts has revealed that this is a far more common issue than many realise! The replacement of this engine is coming from Brisbane (where the engine builder has rebuilt over 2000 of these engines!) and will cost us around $10k. Hopefully, having an engine with aftermarket pistons fitted will negate this big problem on an otherwise faultless vehicle. Come on Toyota, look after your loyal customers!
Positive reviews
Three prados down – Not a Toyota tragic (have a ranger work Ute) but as a family car in regional Australia, you can’t beat them. Had 3, turn them over around 100,000 kms and never an issue (apart from dirty fuel). Current one at 60,000, averaging 9.3 litres with bigger tyres and bull bar. Others may drive better but I trust them… and never a rattle Show details
Good reliable car – June 2023 VX - bought brand new. Replaced our 3.5L V6 Kluger with 2.8L 4cyl Prado so can feel the difference in pickup, it is bit slow but does speed up quite quickly once above 60kms. Pros: Amazing ride quality. Decent sound system (JBL) Long range fuel tank. Ability to go practically anywhere. Quality/reliable brand. Owned/Driven(years) few… Read more
Toyotas so from personal experience. Good aircon and heating system. Fridge- love it when we go off-roading or long drives. Decent fuel consumption - 10L/100km mostly city drive.
Cons: No memory seating for $80k Car. Slow pick up [Content Removed]/ancient interior Wired android auto and apple carplay. no boot space once 7 seats up. Minimal storage at front.
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Excellent vehicle – Bought it with 50,000k's on the clock. Been my work vehicle as a Stock and Station agent. Driven over rural properties, long distances etc. regular service through dealer. Only minor issues. Never faulted. Now at 220,000kms. Excellent vehicle. Show details
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Toyota Prado Never Again – Toyota Prado VX 2018 goes into limp mode when towing a Caravan, the car is regular serviced by Toyota. ( what a waste of money) Our local Dealer doesn’t not know what the problem is. Toyota is well aware of the problems but will not fix it. DPF and other problems. That Engine is Toyota’s worst nightmare The 2019 model has also the same problems.… Read more
After driving Toyotas 4x4 for more than 20 years I believe there are better cars for that money. Looks like we have sell the car to tow our Caravan again.
After sales support not existing with Toyota. Payed $ 150 for diagnostic and the fault code gets… Read more (+1 reply)
The lemon that keeps giving – I own a 2010 Kakadu. Imagine driving a car that could blow its pistons at any time due to a known fault. Imagine being stuck on a narrow mountain road with an over heated transmission that was fully serviced just a week ago. Imagine your gearbox has a nasty clunck when dropping back down from 3rd to 2nd on a slow steep hill. And these are all… Read more
known issues. It is also quite prone to rust on the underside. I have owned several Pajero Exceeds over the last 18yrs and never had a major issue. This Prado 150 is incredibly disappointing and I do not recommend them.
Great vehicle until the Jack Collapsed and could have been a disaster. No interest from Toyota – I give 5 stars for the vehicle. It's been fantastic, I have taken it seriously off road and its handled rough terrain brilliantly. I give 1 star to Toyota and their lazy workers at my local Toyota and disinterest in a potential fault in their vehicle. A few days ago we had a flat tyre. On flat ground my husband changed the tyre which he is… Read more
experienced at doing. The jack collapsed and damaged the metal work on the Prado. Thank goodness he had put the spare under the vehicle and he wasn't under it at the time. We took the tyre to the local repair workshop and they had a look at the jack and said I should contact Toyota as it looks to be a fault in the jack and it had damaged our vehicle when it collapsed. I contacted my local Hornsby Toyota dealership, the uninterested man on the phone just wanted to sell me a new Jack for $97. He didn't care less about the potential safety issue or the damage it has caused. Totally pathetic. Completely disappointed in Toyota, a brand that once valued safety and quality.
Recent reviews
Really good – Great handling, comfortable, reasonable pricing, lots of room, I love it
A great 4Wd – I have had my Toyota Prado 90 Series diesel for 13 years now and it has been such a reliable car with only now after 400,000 km am I starting to have to replace a few things. Show details
Great adventure car. Love it – Bought the Prado GXL 2022 and so far it has been perfect. Comfortable ride, great fuel economy and looks amazing. Recently drove from Sydney to Queensland only using half a tank. Managed to fit all the luggage in the boot with 4 passengers and with some room left. The drive up was comfortable and it drove like a dream. The manoeuvrability was… Read more
surprising good. Managed to squeeze into tight parking spots with nil issues. The interior feels a little outdated but that’s not a big issue. The paintwork and the exterior of the car is made to a high quality. To bad someone already reversed into my car while parked! Over all I’m extremely happy with the car. Will eventually take it off road which is the main reason I got the car.
Feels good to drive and awesome ride comfort – Test drove a 2012 Prado after test driving a Mazda CX9 and Subaru forester a Isuzu MU-X etc. Although Mazda CX 9 was a different comfortable ride, being a 6 foot tall person, I felt Mazda leaves too small room for passengers. Also I wanted a proper AWD /4WD vehicle to last for some time. MU-X was trashing the rear passengers, and I could feel the… Read more
harshness at the driver seat. I reckon same story with Everest if I drive it, however already ruled it out due to reliability concerns.
However I fell in love with the ride comfort of the 2012 Prado I drove and It felt right for a car which can go anywhere without worries. The 2022 model has all safety tech for modern age , and auto levelling LED head lamps are killer. Also I went with standard GXL options. The stock audio is more than heart thumping, not sure whether this is an upgrade but great bass and clarity there.
Only complaint I have is the front display which needs serious update. However I am a fan of analog display and all car related info on meter cluster, not on infotainment display.
The tail gate is a nuisance, and not sure why they keep it that way still. But I love the wheel at back look, and the 120L fuel tank.
It really needs some more USB ports at rear and at the rear view mirror . Except that , overall a joy to ride in this legend with all necessary tech in it.
Rugged build quality, feels very solid , where my 2015 Mazda 3 , has issues with all plastic parts are made cheap, and falls apart.
Overall, it’s nice to see an overhaul to this SUV.
Loved this car until the gearbox died at 165000k’s and Toyota wanted $12,000 to fix! – We have owned the car since new and have serviced it regularly through Toyota and done very little towing or off-road work. Unfortunately, while driving in the city, we heard a large thud and then a horrible grinding noise while driving across a busy intersection. After calling the tow truck and dropping the car off at our local Toyota service… Read more
centre, we received the bad news that the gearbox was broken and couldn’t be repaired. The quote to replace the gearbox was $12000! My local Toyota service centre were great and offered to run an out of warranty claim on my behalf, as they felt a Prado gearbox should last longer than 165000k’s, but central office Toyota rejected the claim - they felt it was reasonable for a gearbox to fail at 165000k. After this experience, I will never own a Toyota again. It’s a pity, as our Prado was a great car, but we will be sticking with Mazda or Isuzu in the future. Unfortunately our Toyota wasn’t unbreakable!
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Great 4wd – 2005 VX 4L PETROL AUTO. Done 240k kms with 100+k kms towing 2450kg van on good main roads at abt 100kph. GCM is 5300kg at the weighbridge. Vehicle fitted with auto trans lockup switch resulting in 5th gear towing with locked torque converter. Consistently averaging 20l per 100 measured at the pump. Varies between 17 and 25 depending on wind. Best… Read more
non towing consumption has been 11l per100 cruising at 100kph. Got 1600kms from 180l tanks on one occassion. Has front and rear diff locks and full electronics all of which can be switched independently. Been 100% reliable. Only complaint vinyl cracked on dash.
Love it ! – Only just got it but am very happy with it.The paint is still very nice after 22 years and have had my mechanic check it out and found no problems with it. Has done 300,000 klms and runs sweet, plenty of power and the five speed manual gearbox works great. Less than ten thousand to buy it which is good for such a well looked after car. Show details · 1
Great car – I have had this car for 6 and half years. It is my everyday car. It's gets driven 4 or 5 times a week along a dirt road into town. We have used it for towing, 4wd, driving on sand. The car gets an oil change every 8 to 10 thousand kms. Show details
My New Prado – Had this new Gun Metal Toyota Prado for two weeks now , what i like the best about it is i have better vison with having ther spare tyre under the car now rather then on the back tailgate , so it does reduce the fuel tank capacity but who cares , i rather see more on what is happening when driving , The Technology has increased since i had my last… Read more
one i got in 2018 but the saftey features are really up there and its a much safer vehicle to drive , i recommend anyone looking for a new 4 x 4 check out the Land Cruiser Prado.
An Aussie icon – We drive a lot in our household. We have had our 2022 VX Prado for four and a half months and have already clocked almost 12,000 kilometres. In that time, we have become very familiar with the car. We initially wanted the flat tailgate but were glad to get the additional tank capacity (they are not the most fuel-efficient vehicles). Some things… Read more
you might read about elsewhere worth reiterating:
- It beeps as you for everything. My wife often leaves her keys in the car inside of a handbag she left and when you attempt to lock the vehicle using the sensors on the door handles, you get a loud long beep. Step out of the vehicle while it's running and have your key? You'll get a beep saying the key cannot be detected. It beeps at you for everything.
- The interior is very old school Toyota. Unlike competing vehicles in the late $70-80k range, the inside while being tidy and spacious isn't very modern. You don't buy a Prado for it to be pretty, but an interior refresh wouldn't hurt.
- Only one USB port (and it's not very high wattage).
- The quality of the reverse camera is terrible. I've driven other older Toyota vehicles like Corolla's which have reverse cameras that look better and function better in low light too. I wish Toyota would fix this and offer the improved camera to existing owners.
- Adaptive Radar Cruise Control does not support stop/start. This means when the vehicle drops below a certain speed, the cruise control disables. Once again, I have driven other Toyota vehicles which have the stop/start feature.
Overall despite the lack of modern inclusions and a few annoyances, it's a good car. It's reliable and you can trust it will last a long time. At least they offer Android Auto and Apple CarPlay in the Prado now. The Digital Audio is a nice touch and the sound system is awesome.
Nice family car. Not a great one (2020 January model) – I bought this as my dream car but I felt some issues like jerking when shift from parking gear to reverse and it is noisy as well . Recently I noticed that there is some kind of sound coming while breaking. Torque converter gear box is not that great. It is always jumping around 5th and 4th gear not locking on 6th even on highways and it’s playing… Read more
big roll on fuel efficiency . I don’t think it’s value for money. I use this car for almost every day for work and weekend outback trips, beach drive etc. I used to service the car on 8000K. I have done 30000k on this car. Good things are It’s a comfy spacious car for family.
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Peeling White Pearl paint 2008 VX Prado – See the pics. This is what Toyota Australia call environmental damage deny any liability and Toyota USA call a factory fault and support their customers financially. Go figure that one out Toyota Head Office. Show details
Absolute weapon – I’ve got a petrol, damn it’s got some power, comfortable and an absolute pleasure to drive. I can’t fault this car but have mentioned a few things to keep in mind. Fuel consumption is pretty bad, I always run 98 premium in mine even though not necessary, however it’s never been good on fuel. If you want fuel efficient look for newer models or a a… Read more
diesel.
The heavy fuel usage is outweighed by its reliability, comfort, size and practicality.
Haven’t had any major issues, keep on top of regular maintenance and get your mechanic to change transmission fluid regularly! Write this down and do it. Very important and often forgot about and an afterthought until the transmission blows.
Great vehicle – Bought in 2014 to tow caravan around the country. COVID has in fact restricted it to under 100,000. Only repair was strut holding back door open expired. It’s light on diesel but a bit expensive to service every six months. I took out extra new car warranty which will run for nine years. After that I’ll go to 10,000 services. Best car I’ve had in sixty years owning. Show details
THE best car – I purchased this car new in 2015. I have travelled all over, with absolutely no issues at all. Reliable, comfortable and easy. Birdsville, country, NT. Servicing is every 5000km I have contemplated getting a new car (BMW) but scared to get rid of an older faithful. My only issue now is prado prices have gone up and not much of a change in… Read more
design. Since 2015 they have gone up $15k!!!! Value for money?!? NO!!!!! Sorry Toyota, love the car but value for money isn’t there this time.
an oldie but a goodie – This has been a great workhorse for everyday commute to going twice around Australia. Loads of interior space and plenty of seats for a big family. The engine has been rebuilt once and has gone 590000 klms. Great 4x4 performance and towing ability. No rust. I would buy another one! Show details
Satisfied with smaller Toyota – Purchased from CMI Southside with Aaron Tartoosy who looked after our build by keeping us informed. Was an excellent dealer, I will deal with them again. The presentation of our Kakadu was terrific. Show details
Love My Prado – We bought the Prado to tow our campertrailer, I was driving a Honda CRV, however the CRV did not have the power we needed to tow. We wanted a car to have the room to take our 3 Labradors away camping too. I use the Prado for work, I am a Community Care Aide, most of my clients are able to access the car comfortably. The Prado is big and comfortable inside, my Mechanic services the Prado twice a year. No major problems. Show details
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external link There are also reports of major front end suspension collapse where the suspension bolt fails -… Read more (+3 replies)