Haymes Paint Woodcare Dexpress Deck & Timber Stain
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Worst product I have ever used takes forever to dry show’s every bit of dirt and is difficult to clean I have used haymes for 40 odd years since there humble beginnings in Ballarat. Most disappointing given the price Approx 300sq meters of undercover deck 3coats over a 2 week period Show details
Cannot Fault So Far – Placed review about 2 years ago and I must say that since then hadn't had to recoat my deck will probably do so this tear one coat doesn't really need it but honestly if applied correctly to deck that has completely cured and timber has dried it is a bloody good product better than anything I have used before but like any product it is essential… Read more · 1
that you apply as directed otherwise it's not the product that has failed it's the person applying it definitely outlasts other products I have used for decades and that's a fact and by the way if coating over another product complete sand down before hand is essential bring timber back to original condition as best as possible however on new timber fantastic.
Long time user – Used it on my deck yesterday and previously applied about two years prior and 18months before that It's a 20 sqm deck I find it hard wearing and will share my experiences Make sure you apply with lambswool bonnet , last time I did it with a roller and it looked terrible and required a fair bit of sanding yesterday to remove the motley finish… Read more
. I put the black rubber feet from Bunnings on the base of my cane chairs and they worked well without leaving marks but tore rather easily , replaced with the white ones which have lasted but stuck to deck and left whites marks everywhere .
I only used 180 grit on orbital sander but think I could've gone to 120
When applying go one way and drag bonnet back over board without stopping so you get a uniform finish otherwise you will see the imperfection when dry .
Is definitely a hard wearing product that lasts in my situation and will continue to use in future
Excellent product – Great product easy to use. I re stained my deck around the pool. I previously used Cabbots aqua deck which in my opinion isn't as good doesn't last very long. Igave it 2 coats of dexspess and it looks great,quality product it drys quick as well. Highly recommend. Show details
Not happy – Call out to all who have used HAYMES WC Dexpress Merbau/Natural Stain on their pool decks because I have a problem. I live in Cairns and my pool deck (previously stained with Cabot’s back in 2016) was re-stained with Haymes (the painter didn’t use any other product and as it was difficult to find someone available to do the job I went with him). … Read more
Timeline was 17/9/21 wash the deck 20/9/21 1st coat at approx 2pm 21/9/21 2nd coat at approx 8am
The temperature between the 20/9/-27/9/21 was 20.0-31.1 celsius. There was no rain between 13/9-27/9 but there was 7mm in our suburb according to BOM on 4/10/21. Note: When we had the overnight rain I noticed it sat on the pool deck for hours even with full sun on it before it dissipated. I’d not noticed this before with previous stains.
The problem occurred when the gardeners cleared the pool deck garden on 4/11/21. It rained a bit the previous night and before they arrived. This resulted in muddy boot prints on the decking and they didn’t hose them off before leaving. It rained a bit after they left so I was surprised to see the boot prints still there the next day. I hosed it off, the boot prints didn’t budge. In the days that followed I used a soft bristle broom and washed the deck down while wet. It slightly improved the problem. At the request of a Haymes representative in Victoria I mopped (not something I want to do on a pool deck) a section with soapy water and it made little difference. And when the gardeners replanted the pool deck garden on 16/11/21 they gave the deck a good 'scrub' with the soft bristle broom and water to no effect.
The long and the short of it is, the painter (who’s viewed the damage) and the local distributor of Haymes have respectively said ‘they did the job correctly’ and ‘the product is not faulty’. The painter will come back at some stage and do a test ‘scrub’ to see if the stain moves per se. The gardeners have been kept informed.
Even if this problem is rectified it’s sure to happen again should someone in muddy boots etc use the pool deck like the pool guy who is on and off it or the tree lopper who needs access to the palm trees. Can anyone shed some light on what the problem is please as I've not experienced this with the old or new pool deck in the 18 years I've lived here.
Delayed 2nd coat – This morning I have put the first coat on my aged new merbau deck (which has dried)... but now it has got very windy and flowers from gum trees are accumulating on my deck. I will now have to wait 2 days, when the wind conditions are forecast to drop. Is this delay going to be detrimental to the dexpress 2nd coat final finish ? Just spoke to… Read more
Haymes on help line .. it can wait, apply 2nd coat when I know it'll be fine for 3 days straight ..that being, no wind, rain or below 10%. Thanks Haymes.
Great Product So Far – I live on the Sunshine Coast had decks for decades have used many products that just don't last I found Haymes Dexpress easy to apply I used the brush three coats so far so good very impressed have used other brands never really happy with finish lets just hope this product outlasts the others but so far no complaints applied product approx. 2 months ago and looks great - I am a strong supporter of Australian made so that's a bonus... Show details
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So far so good – It's all about the preparation. I had a 13m x 4m deck (merbau) in reasonable condition, but still I did two applications of the oxalic acid cleaner and two rounds of pressure cleaning. All up that took about 6 hours. I didn't see the need to sand because the boards were otherwise in pretty good condition. I applied two coats of Dexpress to… Read more
most of it, 3 coats to the external boards that collect the most weather (deck is facing SW). I used a brush because I wanted to get into the cracks between the boards, so that meant another 6 hours either on my knees, or bending. Ouch, still feeling it. I was a bit concerned about the slightly sticky feel when walking on it after 5 or 6 hours, so I phoned Haymes in Ballarat and asked how long should I wait before putting furniture back. An extremely helpful Brandon (senior salesman?) answered the phone straight away and gave me lots of good advice, essentially I should wait 48 hours, but the longer the better, and that (if I wanted to be really fussy about it) then after 28 days it should be "rock hard". Drying is apparently not a matter of heat or sun on the deck, but air flow over the deck. Regardless, 2 days later the slightly sticky feel is gone, but I'm still going to wait at least a week. Note that the pictures are as the work progressed, some of them are after only one coat, most of them are after there had only been 2 hours drying time between coats, so they don't really reflect the quality of the final appearance. As it dries, the colour seems to intensify and deepen (which is what I wanted). [As an aside, I note a negative review from someone who said he bought the product in Bunnings. You can't buy this in Bunnings, they don't stock it, so maybe that review was actually about some other product?]
Had to spend hours working this product out – Really unsure what this product was all about. Application was patchy and didn’t perform to expectations. Started on Monday a week later still trying to achieve a smooth finish between coats. It’s just not user friendly Show details
DEXPRESS – HI im doing my veradah.on a victorian home...ive never done a deck before....one side is old treated pine...i mean old...lots of sanding by hand...then 3 coats of ''DEXPRESS'' couldnt be more happier..a fantastic product...2nd pic is first coat..3rd pic..is three coats.. Show details
I wouldn’t use Haymes – I used Haymes wood are easy flooring as it was recommended. I would ever use it again. Ruined beautiful Jarrah floorboards and I’ve had to redo the whole thing. I have since use Cabots and would recommend them instead. Show details
Drying Time – I love the look of Dexpress, however it took forever to dry properly (months!). Our deck is undercover with little or no direct sunlight. Even after months of not having any furniture on the surface, the furniture has now left marks. The furniture has protector felt pads. We have a large deck, it took a lot of work to prepare as instructed and… Read more
sanded back to bare boards by a professional, so we are disappointed that we have a finish with marks on the surface where the furniture has been.
Haymes Dexpress don't bother trying anything else! – We have just used Haymes Dexpress Merbau for the first time on our new red Iron bark deck and its the best product we have ever used hands down and we have built and oiled a lot of decks. Dexpress has such a thick and even coverage. Product applied on very easily using a Cabot's long pile sock decking oil applicator and simply washed out in… Read more
water. Painted on the first coat then waited two hours and then painted the final coat. Although it wasn't completely dry when I took these photos I just wanted to show the gorgeous richness in the colour and professional finish. The first photo is the first coat and the second photo shows the final second coat. We have 150 m2 of deck to go and now we will never use anything else on our decks. Thank you Haymes for making such an awesome product.
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So far so good ! – After countless hours researching , reading and asking around at all the local paint shops I decided the best option was to use Haymes Dexpress on my newly constructed merbau steps . Being from Mildura the weather extremes were a worry ( close to 50 in the summer ) So far I am not disappointed in my choice , after Nearly 2 years with one recoat… Read more
the deck still looks like new . Very easy to apply and quick recoat times mean it can be done in a day . I haven’t noticed any fading around furniture etc I guess due to the UV protection . I am about to begin laying my 30 sq mtr deck and will definitely be using this product on completion , no doubt whatsoever
Superb product and a very easy-to-use, forgiving product unlike Intergrain Ultradeck. Highly recommend! – Applied 2 coats of Dexpress Natural to Merbau Decking. Still a little sticky but understand there is 7 day curing time. It did plenty of research on decking oils after reading so many bad reviews on Ultradeck and Cabots products. Very happy this water based stain has helped retain the natural wood grain. Show details
SIMPLY THE BEST – Haymes Dexpress is Simply the best product on the market for your decks 3 coats however after using there wood cleaner, 2 coats 3 hours apart then the third the next day BRILLIANT Show details
Looks great on pine but wore of spotted gum decking within a few months – I applied two coats to my spotted gum decking. It looked OK for 4 months and then started to wear away. It's about half covered now at 7 months since application. I was expecting better. The one coat I applied to some pine structural beams on the same deck looks great however.
Very good product – I used cabots natural decking oil for the first two years, i was re coating every 6 months. I changed to Dexpress i found it dry's very quick. I could give a second coat the following day. It has been 8 months now and still looing strong. Should get 2 years before re coating. Very happy with it. Show details
Dexpress - brilliant product! – Absolutely love this product. We've used it over several years on different things. Was recommended to us by our local paint store after we had a merbau deck built. The merbau colour is lovely and rich, it's very easy to apply and dries quickly. Looks absolutely fantastic. In fact we like it so much we used it on all our new timber Windows, and our post & rail fencing. Everyone comments on how great it looks - very happy customers here! Show details
Great lasting finish – I had used Dexpress to seal our decking about 3 years ago and it is still lasting. In this time the decking had received a hammering when we had a new brick retaining wall built beside it and the Dexpress finish still looked great. I am looking forward to resurfacing the decking this summer. Show details
Easy to use,great finish – Not sure why there are a couple of negative reviews here, this product was easier to use and gave a ten times better finish than any Cabots products I have used in the past. It gave an even coat all over and the color was very natural as opposed to Cabots which gave a dark chocolate finish. Will definitely use again. Show details
Dexpress - A Beginners View – Just thought I would provide my experience being a novice deck stainer. I have a large 50 sq metre east facing deck. The deck had a jarrah stain applied that had faded badly and was in need or rejuvenation. Selected Dexpress Iron Grey. The deck was broomed/scrubbed with warm Napisan in water to get the desired cleaning effect and then gently… Read more
gerni’d the water off. Don’t blast it though as wood surface may “feather” which is undesirable and damages the surface. Waited about 10 days for a warm day and applied about 10AM one morning on 25 degree day. Being east facing the deck had been directly exposed to sun since sunrise and boards were very warm. As the stain was applied, it was drying quickly. My method of dabbing small amounts along the boards with a lambswool applicator before spreading only worked OK. The stain soaked in quickly to the dabbed locations resulting a darker colour in these spots. Then when it was spread I got a lighter colour on the other patches where the stain had not sat. I think applying in the direct sunlight on a 25 degree day was not ideal.
I then continued the same thing on another part of the deck after lunch in a shaded area and the results were much better. The stain retained its liquid form much better, the wood did not drink up the stain quite so hard and I had time to move it about with greater ease. I applied a second coat a week later on a cool cloudy 19 degree day and the results were better again. Stain was easy to work with, drying was slower so I could work with the applicator to get an even spread of stain, and the blotchiness I achieved after the first application was gone.
It did rain after the first application and the milky white blotches people have commented on did appear. I spread the small water patches out with a broom to aide drying and within 24 hrs the water and white blotches had gone. So my plan next time is to…. 1) Don’t apply in direct sunlight or do on a cool day 2) Brushing achieved a beautiful consistent finish but on large areas was way to slow and hard work 3) White blotchiness can be overcome by spreading the water to let it dry.
Only had the 2nd coat on a few days but the deck looks really good. At this point would be happy to re-use again. Will see how things look in 6 – 12 months and will re-apply a third coat later in the year.
Just the observations of an amateur.
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Dec 2017 Update
I bought the colour Iron Grey. When I opened the can it looked like a paint consistency in the colour of warship grey. Not exactly the shade I expected but I proceeded regardless. I think I ended up painting it on too thick, as the grey is just the base. If you slather it on, you get the base colour I think. If you are less generous you get the stain colour. I think all Dexpress stains have this grey base I have just discovered. So I layered it on and then put a 2nd coat on. It ended up looking like I had painted the deck, not stained it. But it looked fine, was very weather proof and has not deteriorated 1 bit. It has almost no traffic though but has survived a Victorian winter and still looks as good as new. Will how it goes over summer.
The deck was originally stained in Merbau colour so this also may have affected the outcome and stopped the true iron grey colour coming through. Dunno.
I also painted some outside treated pine stairs. Again too thick I think. These stairs are used daily. At the base of the stairs is some gravel leading to a lawn. When people walk up the stairs with gravel stuck in their shoes, the paint has chipped away and needs another coat. Partly my fault for using gravel. Should have used something very fine that wont chip if stuck on a shoe. All in all I am still happy despite my errors.
I am staining some raw gum sleepers at present, and the different colour I selected still has the grey base. But when spread, the real colour comes through and it looks good + plus the wood grain remains evident. I did not get this on my deck so this has been an interesting learning for me. Maybe the Merbeu colour of the deck stopped the gentle grey stain displaying and hence only when I applied it heavy did I get some sort of grey colour?
Overall though, I am happy and will buy more of this product in the future. It has plenty of good reviews, the Haymes team are happy to give advice and it is Australian made and owned I think. Plus even though I may have applied it a bit heavy, it looks like it will last for a good few years (subject to rocks in shoes) which means this will not require yearly re-staining which suits me fine. The less I have to paint / stain the better. Am I am still an amateur.
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Great Australian Decking oil, one of the best i tried – I bought 10L of Haymes Decking oil last week at www.outdecoliving.com.au ebay stores. The products are easy to use and dry fairly quickly. I choose the (merbau water base) decking oil because its lasts longer than natural water base. The Colour is dark and rich, Haymes customer help line is very helpfull and technical.
Great product – Very easy product to apply with a brush or applicator. It goes on easy and is touch dry within a few hours, but does take a fe days or so to completely lose that slight tacky feeling. I have used this on a new merbau deck (the Natural stain) and it came up really well. Make sure you get at least 2 but ideally 3 coats on to start with. I have also… Read more
used the Merbau stain in the same product and this has been great on fences and other outside timber as it holds it colour for a really long time. I would certainly recommend this over the usual decking oils that need to be re-done a lot.
Love it! – I've always used Cabots but thought I'd try the Simply Woodcare range because it's 100% Australian made and family owned. I purchased Dexpress for my decking and Uvex for my windows. Wen I purchased the products it was recommended to me that I recoat it with one coat every 12-18 months to. It has now been 2 years and my deck and windows still look… Read more
amazing. I always had to recoat the Cabots every 12 months. I am planning on recoating this weekend even though I don't think it needs it, to be sure, to be sure and all of that.
I love the finish of both the dexpress and the Uvex. Very Happy. I will be doing my interior woodwork in a few weeks and intend to use the simply woodcare range again.
Best Quality & most reasonable pricing - Australian Company - Quality Similar to Sikkens Brand – Pricing and quality of this product is far better than anything else out there in the market. I see other reviews about slippery and all - if it’s wet, it will be slippery - simple as that. Similar to Sikkens I must say. Highly Recommended Product Also try their UVEX Range -
Slippery if wet ...dangerous – My husband runs a Painting business and has always used Sikkens however this time for a new deck at home I did some research and convinced him to use Dexpress . The main reason though was as we have two dogs and two cats the logistics of trying to keep the off the deck whilst Sikkens dried was way to hard . The big thing with this product is it… Read more
is dangerously slippery when wet . Many many times I have walked in a damp lawn in thongs then back onto the deck and nearly gone over we have both decided it's to dangerous as we also have some. Decking close to the pool area which of course is often wet and slippery so have decided to go back to Sikkens , of course we haven't done it ...one of those will get to jobs . Well it's getting done now ASAP as this evening I was walking on the deck must have stepped on a wet patch and as my thongs hit the wet patch they slipped and I went straight down on top of the dog bowls . It hurt as I slipped hard and fast but thankfully no damage probably just bruising to come however it's made me write this to make anyone thinking of using this product to be very aware especially if you have children . As for durability it's ok we have a large Doberman over 55kgs with massive claws and it held up as well as the Sikkens which was on the last deck . The section near the pool in full sun has lasted around 5 months however it gets a lot of sun and high temps BUT I won't use and would certainly not recommend to anyone due to how slippery it gets ...extremely dangerous when wet .
Curing Time – After purchasing Dexpress and applying two coats to my deck, Haymes told me it would take 5 weeks to cure and don't put anything heavy on it. I wish this was stated on the tin. But if they did no one would Buy it. The family Christmas on the deck is 3 weeks away
Life made easier – I have found dexpress the best product of all .I tried several other brands and types and have massive decks all around our house. It's an amazing product
Use of haymes deckspress – Applied in the correct manner haymes deckspress is an excellent product..Here are a few must do's..When using merbau decking make sure the nails are punched well below the timber line. Let the timber weather for a couple of weeks with frequent hosing down to bleach the tanon from timber. Only apply in warm weather with at least three days of warm… Read more
dry weather after application, apply no less than three coats initially..Then one coat every two years from then on..I have applied this product to my deck seven years ago and my deck looks as good as the day i applied my first application..I suggest you use deckspress natural , other colours become too dark after some time and lose that merbau look..Don't be tempted to walk on deck until fully cured or at least two days,although this product dries super fast eg, one hour dry,.It does still need to cure for best results looks great..ease of application...quick dry..very servicable finish.
Rubbish, doesn't dry properly – I have used this product a number of times with the same problem. it doesn't dry. last application decking cleaned and coated in October. it's now mid February, hot hot summer no rain during this period. just five mm of rain boards have turned soft and milky. nopoint contacting haymes as they will pretend to test the product and say it's fine. and… Read more
yes i'm speaking from experience. i havehad other issues with haymes paint. do yourself a favour...use another brand.
Doesn't dry! still goes soft and cloudy from moisture after four months curing in summer with no rain
Dexsperfects – After using the oxalic acid (woodclean) sold to me, I did a water bead test, with this showing the water was being absorbed the guys at Bristol Erina sold me dexspress merbau for my merbau deck. They told me I would get 1 or 2 years out of this product 3 years later in half undercover half exposed to the weather I have put a coat of natural back… Read more
over the whole deck for maintenance as I was happy with the darkness of the original coats. more expensive but coating less often Could only do 2 boards the whole length of deck at one time
A very good quality deck protecting product and well priced – I've been using this product for six years and I would recommend it to anyone who is in the market to paint/seal/stain a new timber deck (mine is merbau). It needs to be re-coated every 2-3 years if in direct sunlight. If the area is totally undercover you could probably stretch it out to 4 years providing the original preparation and… Read more
application are as directed by manufacturer. Cost effective and plenty of advice from retailer. You should not apply this product unless you have a good three to four days of decent weather during and after application as moisture or cooler weather causes the fresh coating to become cloudy in appearance.
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