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Six years on!
This is our fifth post on the Francis. Its six years since we bought it new and its now done over 100,000ks. In the last eighteen months / two yeas we have had been on many rough roads anf done extensive free camping. The van trails well and has never leaked. Everything works as it should and its a reliable comfy unit. We have added a CTEK charger and upgraded the two batteries to another 120amp. We made the right decision when we purchased this van and if we upgraded we would most likely buy another AVAN van.
One other point is the ALKO torsion suspension. We were nit entirely sure when we bought the van. We were used to coil or leaf spring. Six years on couldn't recommend it enough.
Purchased in May 2015 at Avan.
2009 Liam Mk2 Adventure Pack Off Road, 5.63 pop top. Everything works. Tows great. Very good quality. Plenty of ground clearance for most tracks. Aging very well. Love it. Would give it a score of 9/10.
Purchased in June 2017 for $35,000.00.
Bad design of flyscreens
Our van took in loads of dust over a couple of days.
My husband did manage to seal the spots where the dust was coming in and it has been fine.
The flyscreens for the windows and door are absolutely useless, at the first hint of even a gentle breeze they blow out and are of no use.
This is my main gripe, they are so badly designed.
Another issue is the pilot light of the fridge goes out with wind.poorly designed in my opinion
It is easy to tow and otherwise comfortable.
It was bought as a second hand van, the van itself was made in 2011
Purchased in July 2017.
things not done properly
have had some issues drain wasn't connected to basin in bathroom hole in bench to small for connection to go to basin had to remove basin to larger hole in bench and we haven't left home so we had leaks screws out of hinges ,doors not lining up .fuses missing .out of lighting system. towed well from port Macquarie to gold coast
Disappointed in building quality and after service
555 seemed rusted workmanship screws missing from hindgers holes drilled in floor incorrectly water piping incorrectly fitted water leaks from tanks filled with silicone instead of replacing cracked fittings.Delivery date was late by 6months .Sorry Avan PERTH very unhappy with service after you had my money .Conversation travels fast
a'van francis HT
We purchased a new Francis HT Adventure pack from A'van Morisset in October 2017. Since then we have done a couple of "shake down" local trips, leading up to our recent big trip. We have just come back from an 6000 km trip from Lake Macquarie to Longreach, Winton, Hughenden, Charters Towers, Townsville and down the coast to Yeppoon where we stayed for a few days before coming home via Goondawindi, Warialda, Inverell and One Mile Beach, Nelson Bay, where we stopped for a few nights before coming home.
The van has had a a couple of niggling iss...
Good caravan but customer service is poor.
Purchased in 2014. A wonderful caravan to tow and to live in for 3 months, as we did whilst touring WA. Took off the ensuite door, too heavy and replaced it with a light curtain - does the job wonderfully. The Frances shows no inclination to sway whilst towing. One problem has been the waste plumbing - because the shower drain is so low, the kitchen sink empties into the shower, not good for hygiene. Told Avan about it and they put a one-way valve into the shower waste pipe, but it still lets the kitchen sink waste water into the shower. The ...dinette seating leaves much to be desired, especially if you want to watch TV and perhaps an L-shaped diner might be better. The Avan has been reliable and we love the comfortable bed and storage capacity. Unfortunately, the water heater went bust after only 2 and a half years. We have also had problems with the inside window surrounds not being screwed in properly, and the sliding flyscreen door is difficult to use - WD40 does not seem to help.
After purchasing a new jack in 2010 i haven't had anything but trouble with this very poorly built caravan. Owning an A liner previously and finding it a well built and functional van. Believing that the Jack would be of the same quality. Wrong, on late delivery there were fault after fault ie leaking plumbing breaking plastic table tensioner bolts. Dometic rubbish appliances. Draws so poorly constructed they fall of runners etc. After speaking to the Quality Control Officer i can understand why these substandard vehicles are being produced. I...n finishing off i wouldn't recommend these caravans to anyone. After purchase service was also very poor. When van could not be towed the seller told me that he didn't do house calls.! Thank you Ken Squire.
Happy with van and layout and all small problems fixed by either dealer or product warranty. Our main problem is weight as atm is well over stated limit.
We purchased van from stock at penrith it has oven air con and awning fitted presumably at factory which I would hope is include in tare.
We have 2 water tanks and coupled with the hot water this gives 200 litres so 200 kg this leaves only 100 kg for every thing else if as stated the air etc is included in tare
Has anyone up dated chassis etc to accomodate greater load capacity .axle rating is 1600 kg
Wonderful van .... a few serious problems
We collected our new Frances Avan from the Penrith Avan franchise in mid Dec. 2015.
It was missing the oven, tv, radio cutout and outdoor table. The plywood under mattress sheets were covered with dirty footprints and the ensuite sliding door was not properly fixed. This is our first caravan so we were assisted with the coupling between car and van which almost came undone, hanging by full extent of chain on way home after turning a corner. The pin holding the tow hitch to the car had not been put in. The wiring polarity for the stability cont...
Dissapointed in Quality.
The van itself comfortable inside for 2 people tows ok has an annexe which easy to set up however I now have a problem with some delamination on outside wall.Not getting a return Email from Avan Dealer in Adelaide.
Avan Frances HT560 - nice van but After sale service not so nice
After delay in getting the van (9 months from deposit taken) Van was not the colour we ordered and missing items, picnic table, LED lighting, outside shower that we were clearly told were included and thank goodness I took photos of when ordering the van. Had to push to have installed which they did. Took a trip up north, towed well and comfortable van. Things required to get fixed: leaking vanity, ensuite door fell off hinge (hat not used it) and asked for service. Went back week later service not done, items fixed but van left with dirty floor, black mark on wall, glue and wood shaving in vanity. Due to poor customer service, will not go back or recommend AVAN.
AVAN LIAM: Decided the stress was too much after only 3 months since purchase.
What a disaster, after only 3 months since purchase and more phone calls than cups of tea I threw the towel in. So many things wrong, charger not working, fridge relay clicking, floor creeking badly as it moved up and down leaving you to tread carefully as it felt like you were going to go through it, brake lights working on and off, hatch broken, wiring under bed found to be not correctly tighten, found by my local Auto Electrician, all external lights including LED's blown at dealers showroom on pick up. All the promises from the dealer in M...elbourne and the Avan factory and months later still unable to use the Caravan. So eventually I had it repaired by an authorised dealer who was annoyed that I didn't buy the van from them. After an extended wait for parts and finally getting the van to a condition whereby it could be used, I felt comfortable selling it as at last everything worked. I took a hit on the sale but felt it better for my health as it had deteriorated since the purchase and any future problem would have brought a similar result I believed coupled with bad attitude and parts delay. What a disappointment it turned out to be. I have now replaced it with a more expensive brand and I guess at the end of the day you get what you pay for. "A lesson learnt".
Best of the"complete" single axle vans available.
We purchased a Francis, complete with Adventure Pack, three years ago and have nothing but praise for the thoughtful design, weight, finish and durability. Our vans has now covered in excess of 30,000 klm over the many varied types of Australian roads, including the awful western bitumen "highways" and country gravel/dirt tracks - and - it will still pass for a brand new van!; we do not do serious off road type work. We will leave this to camper trailers and their fans. We have had the usually reported issues - window surround screws coming ...loose, forgetting to secure the ensuite door during travel etc. All have been easily and permanently fixed with no further issues. We enjoy the tremendous insulation of the composite build - wether cold or hot, it are a great advantage over the "old type" wooden constructed vans. The independent suspension rides so well that we use the bed to lay our camp table and chairs on during travel; they never move from where they are placed. We tow the van with a 150 series Prado and because of the light tare weight, it provides excellent fuel consumption figures. Avan have provided great back-up service, always providing friendly advice and on-time delivery of any service/parts required. So, it is now time to move to a little bigger van; we checked the thousands available, however, after considering all the glamour available, have decided to update to another Avan - Nathan this time around.
Twelve Months On
Its been 12 months since we took delivery of ta new Francis 560HT and we have done a number of trips with it.
Most of these trips end up on dirt roads and camping off site for four or five days. My previous review said my wife and I were happy with the van and we still are. However I have had to do a number of small repairs to van that are the result of poor design. Example the fridge shifted and moved into the van by about 60mm. The reason was the securing screws on the left hand side of the fridge were screwed into a thin sheet of chipboard ...
A for design , appearance, B for customer service and D for quality control. Australian company sho
Purchased new Avan Frances P/T ,12 months ago and it has now travelled about 4000km. I love the van, it is easy to tow, has a good external appearance and internal layout ,especially the separate shower and toilet. Some really good features such as the blinds/screens and large fridge. However the product was let down by poor quality control during manufacture. I can't understand why Avan have dropped the ball so badly. Some of the problems we have had include : major water leak from air conditioner during rain, seal missing, Water comi...ng in front window, after several attempts to fix the window had to be completely sealed shut to finally fix problem. Shower screen door fell off. No globe in number plate light. Screws missing from several door hinges and one door under bath room sink fell off and appears to be cut slightly too small. Loose fittings left rolling around in cupboards. Black foot marks on wall. TV antenna is very poor quality, looks good as it winds up from inside but outside capital city it has a very short UHF reception range even on boost Front boot leaks like a sieve during rain, a minor modification during manufacture would likely solve but Avan choose to take easy option by placing a sticker to tell you it leaks so they don't have to fix..Sorry but not good enough. Hand book which comes with van is pretty poor quality, photo copied pages, not very professional . Warranty period of 12 months is below industry standard. My first Avan had great quality and reliability, this one is a real step back in quality control.
It got the lot
We bought the van because it ticked all the boxes it got the lot . It works well for the family of four,good to tow,we'll lade out . had been looking for a van for a while could not find one that was right found the avan charlotte have been on many trip in it never had a problem.
Bad workmanship, poor quality & poor customer care. What can you say... an Australian company that we thought we would patronise, never again. Workmanship of this quality makes you understand why there is no manufacturing left in Australia. Our NEW avan Frances is a total disaster & a huge disappointment.
Very happy Chappy
Had our Liam HT 5years great van easy to tow with Mazda BT50 only small things gone wrong as with all vans just about competed 20thousand kms this trip no problems at all
Avan Francis - fantastic van but dreadful workmanship lets it down
Before I make a comment I must say I love our avan Francis - great design. Just purchased a 2012 Avan Francis from private seller in western nsw. The poor workmanship really lets this lovely van down. The veneer on most of the cupboard doors is peeling off, there is a major crack about 30cm long on the internal lining and in one of the cupboards and the fan in bathroom makes dreadful noise as it is catching on something and plastic edging around seating is coming away. This is appalling for a van that is two years old. Unfortunately the van is just out of warranty. Now we know why there was a tube of quick grip in kitchen cupboard. Be careful when buying an Avan!!
Questions & Answers
Our water connection to the toliet where the cassette is located has dislodged twice. Flooded the van. Turned the mains off to ensure it doesn't happen again.
Trying to find out why our 2 x 95ltr. water tanks seem to run out so quickly when free camping. Last trip we allowed water to drain into 10Ltr. buckets so as to record usage. We used approx. 100 ltrs. and our LT109-4 gauge was already showing less that a 1/4 tank left.
When filling tanks I wait until water flows from breather hole. We use the water sparingly but it's as if one tank never fills properly. Has anyone else had this problem?
Similar thing happened to us. The pipe between the two tanks could be larger: when I full up and the water comes out of the spout, I wait 15 minutes and then fill up again. It will take a lot more. Usually do it 3 times until both tanks are chockers. Usually lasts us 5 or 6 days.
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thats a great tip John V, thanks
jacquolin NSW South coast
2013 Frances. First trip in it the water pump decided not to work. There is no 12-13 volts at the pump with 12volt switch on and tap open. Any tips on problem solving and where do I locate the components? Thanks.
Check the wires connection to the battery. If they are connected properly, maybe you batter is buggered. Use a multimeter to test battery voltage. This is not in lieu of a load test. If all else fails, take it to an auto electrician and get him to do a load test on the battery
Battery is brand spanker 120AH and all other electrical fittings work okay, but I will try to trace the wiring again. My multimeter detects voltage elsewhere just not on the wires to the pump when the tap is open. Being at least the third owner and finding some questionable wiring solutions adds to the challenge. I was wondering if there is a sensor in the water plumbing that switches 12V to the pump on when you open a tap? Trouble is I don't know what it would be called, what it looks like and where it could be located.
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