Toro eS3000 75500 Questions & Answers

Hi Connie, it is difficult to effectively diagnose technical issues via this format (particularly if the grandkids have been at it). I would suggest you contact your Toro dealer to arrange an assessment of your mower. To find your nearest dealer go to Toro.com.au and click on 'Where to Buy'

At least one of your batteries is bad and the others are probably not far behind. I did the lithium replacement and its all good now. I built a 40AH battery and its overkill compared to the lead acid batteries, with 40AH i get around 2 hours run time you could probably get away with a smaller battery. Photos and comment on other post

Hi Alan, you machine is covered by a 3 year warranty so if it is less that 3 years old speak to your local Toro dealer to see if they may be covered. Otherwise they can give you a price on replacing the batteries.

Hi Dermot, the 2 beeps would normally indicate there is something out of spec, like the charger is still connected, which is preventing the mower from operating. Check that the charger is disconnected as well as making sure the deck is disengaged, you are seated etc. If the issue persists please contact your Toro dealer for further diagnosis.

Thanks you for responding. After further trial and error I discovered that the beeps were caused by a faulty safety switch under the seat. I disconnected the switch, removed it and pushed the button in and out about 20 times. When I reinstalled the switch, the beeping stopped when I sat in the seat and all is good now. Maybe I need to order a replacement switch for next time it malfunctions.

Good to see you found the issue. The seat switch is a key safety feature so it would be good practice to replace it.

Hi Colette, from what you have said, it sounds like there could be an issue with batteries or charger. Please contact your Toro dealer so they can check out your mower and get it working as it should.

Thank you for the reply - I’ve been back to the dealership and they have provided me with a new charger. I plugged it in at about 3.00pm yesterday and it’s now 1.00 pm and the battery light is still red and the battery charger very hot to touch. It’s been charging for nearly 24 hours.

That doesn't sound right, sorry you may need to contact them again. If they need any assistance please have them contact our technical service team.

Thank you - I will do!

I contacted the dealer again where I bought the ride-on to advise that the replacement charger made no difference and the light is staying red - even after 4 days continual charging. He told me that he would pick up the ride-on when convenient (to him). I have to say that I’m not happy because the ride-on was not fully charged when it was delivered to me (as advised by the dealer) so i think that I received a faulty product from the start. I only had it for just over a month. The dealer has also told me that if a battery is faulty there are none available at the moment. I have only ever been able to run the machine for 40 minutes of mowing time before the battery fails. The product was faulty from the start and the dealer should have known that when the battery was not fully charged on delivery. I believe that the right course of action is for Toro to replace the faulty ride on with a new one.

Am about to do it , have built one battery using 294 x 18650 cells in a 21s 14P arrangement with an 50 Amp ANT BMS. Should get 3 hours run time with it, once the second one is in it it will fun. :) . I did some testing on the mower and it draws around 20Amps when cutting long grass and about 6Amps with the cutter going and not cutting grass.

HinPaul Great to hear someone else doing this, at last. I am treading lightly in. I purchased a 24s 50ah from Ali express for a good price which won't fit in the present compartments. So I am going to modify the ride on and fit aan Anderson socket for both current batteries or new lithium to be fitted. I'm just balancing the lithium battery as it is only testing 30ah capacity at the moment. I will do install soon. If successful I will remove AGM batteries and fit a lifepo4 in either side of battery compartment and install a charge socket to each. I would love to keep in touch while going through this. I'm currently in the process of moving home too so a lot going on. But I have all the materials I need to install. I'm hoping that battery indicator will acknowledge the increased capacity and that it controls the warning mechanism. Keep me posted!

Hi Simon, I'm going down a slightly different path. Building the batteries myself. I found 2 packs of 21S , 14P stacked fit nicely in the existing battery compartments. I'm diode Oring both batteries to feed the mower. Should have around 60 to 70AH. total. I found testing the original batteries only gave about 20Ah when new even though the spec is around 30Ah the mower cuts out below the 30Ah rating. It depends on the current draw from the lead acid batteries i guess the harder you drive them the lower Ah rating.. So it should be a significant improvement, Ill PM my email to you and send some photos. The battery indicator only relies on a voltage measurement so should be ok, I found in testing once the batteries reach a sum voltage or around (10.5v x6) 63V the mover drops into protections mode (Beep) to get back for charging. So your pack will still cut out at this lower voltage even if it can supply more current.

all done, the difference is caulk and cheese. One battery is sufficient, Can mow a whole acre and still have 50% left in the battery. 40AH Lithium battery it ploughs through long grass now where as before it struggled. I'm seeing peak draw of 35A and an average of around 15A . The lead acid batteries just dont cut it so to speak..

It is guaranteed for 3 years, just had all my batteries replaced for free, there is a known issue with the earlier batteries

My mower is less than 12 months old, never fully charge since got it, beeps and cuts out as only half charges after 72hours charging, batteries to be replaced under warranty of 3 years. There are alternative battery suppliers and better prices.

Hi Sam, it sounds like you may have arranged a warranty replacement of the batteries, if not it would be worth speaking to your Toro dealer about the issue with your mower.

Hey Steve,

This mower is not for you…. Can’t recommend an alternative though.

If you've got up to half an acre and you regularly keep the lawn well cut and low this may do the job providing you you don't have any rough and difficult bits or parts that slope more. This is not a mower for rough hard work. It's great for a manicured look where you are basically just trimming off the tips, not slashing. There are bigger battery mowers but would still hesitate to use them on more rugged ground or longer thick grasses. My last mower on acres was a Redmax. I had a 48 inch cut but they come in smaller sizes with Kawasaki engines, have a look at those.

Thanks for your feedback, really appreciated. I have two other ride-ons, a 50” for the property and a 38” for around the office, house etc. the problem for 37 years is when I have to mow around our office area. Too much noise for the girls on the phone or talking to a customer. ( small business 7 days a week, we still love it but every time I mow its like a magnet for people to turn up or the phone to ring. I thought I’d try a small electric to enable me to get into the yards aswell, but I have a few mild slopes ( approximately 10 degrees that aren’t long but still need mowing without me getting into trouble for noise). I’m nearing 73 and the knees aren’t happy pushing a rotary around in the evening as much as they used too. Thanks for your help Regards Steve

Hi Steve, the maximum slope recommended for these mowers is 12 degrees, however other factors such as type and quality of the grass, any potholes or other hazards such as ponds or drop-offs, need to be taken into account. An alternative may be our 60V 22" mower, this has our Personal Pace self-propelled system to take the effort out of pushing. external link 

Toro do not recommend towing anything behind this mower and no longer provide a tow hitch. They say many people overloaded and damaged the mower. They are really good for large residential blocks that are regularly trimmed but not as a workhorse on acres.

My manual says 15 in all. The link below will help starts page 24. external link 

Than you I will check that out

Hi Col P. Yes you are right not to pull too hard on the plastic. There are additional screws around the bottom of the plastic cover that also need to be removed, 15 in total. However, there is little need to remove the cover, the batteries are maintenance free and very few user serviceable items.

Ok thank you for that information but bear in mind your manual says to check battery’s every 25hrs.

Great question and one I’d also like answered. I want to replace these lead acid batteries with lithium.

Yes, I do have a lithium battery charger ready for new batteries….

The batteries are AGM and as such should not be discharged below 50%. If you put a volt meter on each one you should get about 13 volts per battery. Anything under 11.5 volts could mean trouble. It may be that one has failed. Not sure on price but if you remove one and take to Battery World they should be able to help.

Battery world does them for about $250, you have 6 batteries I had mine for more than 1 year and had no problems I do charge overnight for 8 to 10 hours after every use and runs up to 2 & 1/2 hours but normally uses for 1 & 1/2 hours. Yes checking each battery as Stone C says will help to see which one. Don't go by the blue light on the gauge as it is only reading surface charge when 1st turned on. Wait for the charger light to go green and the charger to be cool to the touch and then you will know it is fully charged.

Make sure the charger is plugged into the mower with quarter turn clockwise. The charger light will go from green to red and when fully charged, back to green again. The blades will disengage with low battery charge. The charge indicator will only be accurate when the mower is under load

It's been my experience that it takes at least 4 to 6 hrs to charge from flat...... I usually leave it on over night.... That said I've not experienced the charge indicator showing green after only 10minutes...

Hi Ian. As the previous replies suggested, firstly check that the charger is correctly plugged in and make sure the mower is absolutely fully charged, usually overnight. If the problem continues please contact you local Toro dealer for assistance.

Thank you.

I find the meter battery lights are not true when 1st turn on as it reads the surface charge, not the load level. This happens with a 1/2 charge battery as well. The workaround is to go by the charger light red and warm charger = the batteries are not full. Bright green and cool charger = batteries are fully charged. Overnight is best but 4 to 7 hours should do. I get more than 2 1/2 hours.

Hmmmmm…. I’ve relegated this mower to ‘emergency’ use only. On my sloped block it’s actually dangerous. Can I suggest you use the key to turn mower off with rocker switch in neutral - then turn on again. Once on you should now be able to engage blades..

Does it still show fully charged while the blades are engaged. Mine shows fully charged until the blades are engaged then shows the real charge. But I think if you are having to mow on 6 the grass is simply too long and thick. It really is for lawn. Also if you have the mulch chute closed. Fit the side discharge shute until you get it back down to a lawn height. Mulching takes a LOT more power.

Thanks will try that. Charge is not the issue as this is in first 10 minutes from full.

Grass is not long but it’s kikuyu which i know is harder work. So I was trying it as gently as possible.

long grass use side shoot. If the blads stop, turn the blads key off and on restart blades have never had it cut out yet with a charged battery, slopes or long dry grass. wet will clog it up.

Hi PGTas, thick kikuyu can be difficult to cut, particularly when mulching. As has been suggested, try the side discharge and cutting off a bit at a time. If it continues to cut out it would be best to contact your Toro Dealer for assistance.

Thanks Brian. When it cuts out and starts beeping, what’s the procedure to reset? (When I know the battery is charged still). Turning key off and on doesn’t seem to do it. Can’t find anything in online manual on this.

The key off/key on should do it. Can I confirm the unit has had a full charge before using? This will be 8 to 10 hours with the key off.

Yes, this is all done with full charge - in first 15 minutes of use. Key on/off doesn't always do it.

It's time to go charge but while you have enough to get to a place to charge I find that if you still have some grass do, a 1 to 2-hour charge will normally do for 15 to 20 min cut.

If 1 bar 7 to 11 hours mine takes 7 hours

Thank You Noe G. Much appreciated

The eS3000 takes around 8 hours to charge from min charge

Thanks also Brian

My batteries last 2.3 hours or more fully charged and will run until 2 or one bars where the blades turn off and a beeping warning sounds and you have more than enough power to get back to your charging point. The batteries are Absorbent glass mat (AGM) is a class of lead-acid deep cycle battery in which the electrolyte is absorbed into a fibreglass mat. They do not leak or need water, I have seen many put the ride-on-mower on its back end to clean the deck and sharpen blades. I have done this as well and no acid loss.

I am more concerned with longevity of the battery.......I will research more details of the battery,assumed 6x12 v units.,or maybe one linked 72v ? like a forklift .

The batteries are 6 separate "Absorbent glass mat (AGM)" $160 and up each similar to disability scooters. From any battery retailer. Search for 12V RIDE ON MOWER AGM U1 BATTERY TORO

I have a text from Toro. The machine is fitted with 6 x 12V AGM batteries configured to provide 72V. In regards to partnumber our product manager is looking into this. Regards, Marjoleine

Hi Noe! Did they send you the part number for the batteries. Mine have died and I need to replace them asap!! Thanks! Shann

Hi Shann, if you contact your local Toro dealer they can help you with your batteries. To locate your nearest dealer, visit Toro.com.au and click on 'Where to Buy'

Thanks for that, we are in contact but feel the part number would assist, if you have that for the eS3000SC &2V Toro. Model N. 75500 and Up!

No you can only mulch it or throw it out the side. No catcher available for it.

Yes, but you will have to make one I have seen people use the Ryobi electric ride on catcher for around $800.00 not too hard to change to make it fit and the blades do produce enough airflow to do it but you will be stopping a lot to empty it. There are toro bagger blades for other 30" decks but use them at your own risk and as I said the mulching blades will do it. Toro makes a twin bagger kit for the timecutter which has a similar deck but is far more expensive and heavier when filled. Hope this helps.

Also note that a new mower takes about 3 or 4 charging cycles before the batteries last their maximum. I don't know why this is, but mine got better and better after a disappointing first couple of charges overnight. Also keep grass short. Long grass drains power, so mow high at first and lower on a second pass.